Feminine Pressure
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sadmanbarty
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reynolds was a talking head on some sky arts things a few years back (before i knew of him i think) and said that in the 80's you'd have hyper-emotional women or gay men singing over very cold, synthetic music.
sadmanbarty
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sadmanbarty
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my plan is that at 11 tonight we can all dissect craner's sexuality together. it's very rich, very contradictory; dates younger women but fetishises women his mother's age, he's the welsh james bond but there's a submissive quality to him, a chauvinist that venerates carly simon and stevie nicks. luka, trawl the archives.
luka
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Benny Bunter
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I think if you want to avoid boring old sexual politics 
rolleyes then the elements might serve better as comparisons than will and surrender which are sort of unavoidably political.
The woman in the klimt painting looks...uncomfortable
rolleyes then the elements might serve better as comparisons than will and surrender which are sort of unavoidably political.The woman in the klimt painting looks...uncomfortable
Mr. Tea
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I think if you want to avoid boring old sexual politics
Well carbon/silicon makes a certain amount of sense as a polar dichotomy but beyond that I'm a bit stumped. What 'gender' (in the [edit: I mean 'metaphysical'] sense) is potassium?
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Benny Bunter
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Mr. Tea
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No I meant air, rock, ice, fire, water stuff like that
YES I KNOW oh for heaven's sake, you could at least play along for a bit.
Benny Bunter
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Lolll, sorry, you are quite a literal guy though
Slothrop
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MCing, DJing, breakdancing, grafftiNo I meant air, rock, ice, fire, water stuff like that
blissblogger
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some years ago I did a sort of sequel to the Feminine Pressure piece - called Masculine Pressure (although the real antonym would have been something like Masculine Armour versus Feminine Pressure)
http://energyflashbysimonreynolds.blogspot.com/2009/06/nuum-and-its-discontents-5-masculine.html
the gist of it was that there is an appeal to all these dominating, blaring, bombastic sounds and bad-boy gangsta soldier etc imagery to your pale cerebral young and not-so-young men - even though they've probably never handled a gun and possibly never been in a fight
and that appeal has been undeniable and recurrent part of the hardcore continuum lineage (along with its sources and tributaries like hip hop and dancehall)
i suppose it was a call to be un-embarrassed by this element, while also acknowledging that it is a tricky and problematic thing
for instance, grime - grime is great, but where do we locate the non-will, the surrender aspect in it? it seems to be almost entirely shot through with testosterone.
perhaps the surrender is there as a ghostly wistful quality in some of the sino-grime or certain things by the Ruff Sqwad have a melancholy languid quality
But anyway this long blog post starts with the irony of the debates at that time (this is about 2010) where you had bloke after bloke after bloke complaining about the blokeiness of dubstep - the macho, steroid-driven bombast of brostep and wobble - about clubs full of guys with their shirts off etc... and invoking the "feminine" as a sort of irrigating corrective, usually pointing to something wishy-washy like Joy Orbison (i.e. a supposedly more feminine sound, albeit made as it almost always was by a bloke) and claiming this sound, this would bring the girls back into the clubs.
And it was always men making this quasi-feminist argument, i found dozens of examples and i think just one voiced by a women (Ikonika, saying that a wobble-heavy set felt to her like a bukkake scene)
http://energyflashbysimonreynolds.blogspot.com/2009/06/nuum-and-its-discontents-5-masculine.html
the gist of it was that there is an appeal to all these dominating, blaring, bombastic sounds and bad-boy gangsta soldier etc imagery to your pale cerebral young and not-so-young men - even though they've probably never handled a gun and possibly never been in a fight
and that appeal has been undeniable and recurrent part of the hardcore continuum lineage (along with its sources and tributaries like hip hop and dancehall)
i suppose it was a call to be un-embarrassed by this element, while also acknowledging that it is a tricky and problematic thing
for instance, grime - grime is great, but where do we locate the non-will, the surrender aspect in it? it seems to be almost entirely shot through with testosterone.
perhaps the surrender is there as a ghostly wistful quality in some of the sino-grime or certain things by the Ruff Sqwad have a melancholy languid quality
But anyway this long blog post starts with the irony of the debates at that time (this is about 2010) where you had bloke after bloke after bloke complaining about the blokeiness of dubstep - the macho, steroid-driven bombast of brostep and wobble - about clubs full of guys with their shirts off etc... and invoking the "feminine" as a sort of irrigating corrective, usually pointing to something wishy-washy like Joy Orbison (i.e. a supposedly more feminine sound, albeit made as it almost always was by a bloke) and claiming this sound, this would bring the girls back into the clubs.
And it was always men making this quasi-feminist argument, i found dozens of examples and i think just one voiced by a women (Ikonika, saying that a wobble-heavy set felt to her like a bukkake scene)
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blissblogger
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i like Luka's binary between will and surrender (it's the kind of breakdown of opposed culturally-coded elements that Joy and I would have done in our gender + music book The Sex Revolts)
but for me "feminine pressure" was always more of a force than that - it's a counter-force within a field of energies, some of which are coded masculine
a diva is a pretty formidable potency within music - even in the throes of sonic orgasm, it's more like an explosion than a melting
and even the softest elements in music (lyrical piano, string orchestrations, lush textures) can be the cruelest because they knock down your defences and open up your heart
no industrial or hardcore punk or noise record has ever made me cry, but "There Is A Light That Never Goes Out" or John Barry's theme to Walkabout or fleetwood mac's "Beautiful Child" can make me sob - so who is to say which is the more formidable and powerful piece of music?
but for me "feminine pressure" was always more of a force than that - it's a counter-force within a field of energies, some of which are coded masculine
a diva is a pretty formidable potency within music - even in the throes of sonic orgasm, it's more like an explosion than a melting
and even the softest elements in music (lyrical piano, string orchestrations, lush textures) can be the cruelest because they knock down your defences and open up your heart
no industrial or hardcore punk or noise record has ever made me cry, but "There Is A Light That Never Goes Out" or John Barry's theme to Walkabout or fleetwood mac's "Beautiful Child" can make me sob - so who is to say which is the more formidable and powerful piece of music?
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Benny Bunter
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Thankfully around that time uk funky was popping off so you didnt have to bother will all that wishy washy post dubstep stuff
luka
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i dont accept that this runs counter to my schema. what is a river? why is ALP a river?