Clinamenic

Binary & Tweed
Third we can try to align our stays at the Embassy next time, and be bunk mates.

You more of a bottom or a top kinda guy?
 

Clinamenic

Binary & Tweed
Theres actually another co-living residency in the network called Newspeak, in London, which I may apply to stay at for a while.
 

Clinamenic

Binary & Tweed
I can't shake the conviction that a big part of the appeal to the idea of seasteading is that the people setting them up can make their own laws, or even choose to have no laws at all, on issues such as - to pick one at random - the age of consent.
Yeah I mean I get certain aspects of anarcho-capitalism (if I'm being really generous to anarcho-capitalism) like financial autonomy and reasonable degrees of self-sovereignty, but ultimately it mostly feels like billionaires who don't want to play by the rules, and I find that generally pretty distasteful.
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
Yeah I mean I get certain aspects of anarcho-capitalism (if I'm being really generous to anarcho-capitalism) like financial autonomy and reasonable degrees of self-sovereignty, but ultimately it mostly feels like billionaires who don't want to play by the rules, and I find that generally pretty distasteful.
It sounds like it has the potential for enabling the very worst of human appetites on the scale of Caligula, the Borgias or Gilles de Rais.
 

sufi

lala
Yeah, I've been to talks there. it's close to my workplace,
Ed sap is a good guy apparently, a friend of a friend
 

shakahislop

Well-known member
was very very briefly in san francisco yesterday, did think about saying hello clinamenic but i wasn't there long. almost every store downtown had a security guard. i tried to go to walgreens at night and the bouncer stopped me entering by saying 'yo hot boy yo hot boy' and interrogated me about what i wanted to buy. he wouldn't let me in coz i couldn't tell him specifically what i wanted to get.

then at another shop the security guy within a second of opening my mouth said 'oi mate you shouldn't be in these enz' which was an impressive level of UK knowledge i thought, i should have asked him what he was listening to to pick that up

walking through the tenderloin at 7am was as before like something from hogarth. i saw someone injecting into their ankle, i saw a man waving his dick around after pissing on an SUV. rubbish and tents all over the place.

the mission is still class, the california light is still beautiful, it's still nice to be in warm sunshine in february, the people are still properly friendly and smiling. the extension of mexico north of the border is a nice feature of california and texas etc

the alt-world was nowhere to be seen, in contrast to pittsburgh earlier in the week where it was everywhere i looked.

i wanted to get a driverless taxi but the waiting list to sign up is long

when i'm a millionaire i'm going to live somewhere in the avenues. i've only got depictions in books and what people say to go on but there's a certain comprehensiveness to the change in the city. it's like the normal nyc gentrification process but with the sea in three directions my interpretation (as someone who's spend about five days there in my life) there was nowhere further out for people to go to when the tech money rolled in.
 

shakahislop

Well-known member
the california influence on the rest of the world including the UK is pretty deep. a driver of UK culture in the late 20th century for sure. we tend to get hung up on the internet coz it's happening now. but the previous communications assemblage did a number on the UK too. america reaching out and changing how we think. when i was a teenager half the stuff that people were into came from california. skateboarding, g-funk, the OC, jackass, the offspring. there was this sense of people trying to make things that made sense in the open spaces and sunlight of california work in muddy england. i always wonder what would have happened to UK culture if the american influence hadn't rushed in. the uk is really exposed compared to everywhere else
 

luka

Well-known member
i always felt, growing up, that the californian influence here was negligible. we were far more attracted to new york. it made far more sense to us. the gothic city. Atlantic weather. paranoia. no space. shadows. rain. nobody from london has ever ridden on a skateboard for instance.

californias outdoors lifestyle was probably easier to adopt in the countryside where you can build dirt ramp jumps for your mountain bike and so on.
 

Clinamenic

Binary & Tweed
was very very briefly in san francisco yesterday, did think about saying hello clinamenic but i wasn't there long. almost every store downtown had a security guard. i tried to go to walgreens at night and the bouncer stopped me entering by saying 'yo hot boy yo hot boy' and interrogated me about what i wanted to buy. he wouldn't let me in coz i couldn't tell him specifically what i wanted to get.

then at another shop the security guy within a second of opening my mouth said 'oi mate you shouldn't be in these enz' which was an impressive level of UK knowledge i thought, i should have asked him what he was listening to to pick that up

walking through the tenderloin at 7am was as before like something from hogarth. i saw someone injecting into their ankle, i saw a man waving his dick around after pissing on an SUV. rubbish and tents all over the place.

the mission is still class, the california light is still beautiful, it's still nice to be in warm sunshine in february, the people are still properly friendly and smiling. the extension of mexico north of the border is a nice feature of california and texas etc

the alt-world was nowhere to be seen, in contrast to pittsburgh earlier in the week where it was everywhere i looked.

i wanted to get a driverless taxi but the waiting list to sign up is long

when i'm a millionaire i'm going to live somewhere in the avenues. i've only got depictions in books and what people say to go on but there's a certain comprehensiveness to the change in the city. it's like the normal nyc gentrification process but with the sea in three directions my interpretation (as someone who's spend about five days there in my life) there was nowhere further out for people to go to when the tech money rolled in.
Yeah I'm in Denver now but will be back in SF mid-march. Funny you say that about the alt-world, because my experience there has been pretty confined to the alt-world, between TPOT/rationalism/etc, crypto/web3, co-living/commune culture, longevity/biotech/etc.
 

shakahislop

Well-known member
Yeah I'm in Denver now but will be back in SF mid-march. Funny you say that about the alt-world, because my experience there has been pretty confined to the alt-world, between TPOT/rationalism/etc, crypto/web3, co-living/commune culture, longevity/biotech/etc.
i'm going purely by what people are wearing, you're in a much better position to know something about this
 

Clinamenic

Binary & Tweed
totally devoid of life. fantastic.
Well naturally I'm trafficking through the hipster zones, where I feel at home. Extraordinary brewery-per-capita ratio here. I'm at Edge City right now, a popup village.

 

Clinamenic

Binary & Tweed
what is a pop-up village?
Its this new phenomenon in the "Network State" movement, which is sort of a blend between a conference, an intentional community, and a festival. Sort of overlaps with the Burning Man culture as well, and strongly ties into some of theses of crypto, i.e. peer-to-peer currencies which (theoretically) don't need governments to function, or at least rely on governments less. Popup villages, startup societies, etc, are different terms being tried out.

There is a big one called Vitalia currently, in Prospera, some island off of Honduras I believe. That one is more explicitly about longevity research, and has a lot of biotech and venture capital backing it, which makes me a bit uneasy. But there is also a lot of cool governance/legal innovation there. Its a strange sort of blend between peer-to-peer/open-source ethos (which I generally align with), and the seasteading, elite libertarian, anarcho-capitalist ethos (which I generally don't align with).

 

Clinamenic

Binary & Tweed
Vitalia is in a special economic zone, which gets into this aspect of network states being an evolution of westphalian nation-states. The discourse about network states right now I think is still really niave, but as a nascent paradigm shift I think its pretty plausible, might just take a few more decades, or a couple centuries, to fully be realized, if ever. The idea is that, thanks to internet and whatnot, communities/polities are less bound by geographic boundaries.
 
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