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k-punk sez... <i>But I don't know who outside the Socialist Worker's Party in 1985 would take this stance about 'lining up pop with a larger ideological program'.</i> Sorry, but that's pretty much what you sound like sometimes! <i>On the Dissensus AM thread, some have mocked vanguardism for...

<i>Assessing it on those terms woud mean finally concession to retroism, or to the position advanced by some on this thread and elsewhere that 'it's only entertainment, why get excited, new things are so last century don't you think?'</i> That's not really my position. To be slightly more...

So how exactly did he die? I haven't heard anything more than "liver complications." Anyway, new one Donuts is pretty sweet. It's more about cutting up lots of old soul samples than heavy beats (the heaviest of which, to third others, can be found on Jaylib)

<i>It actually doesn't have to be anything in particular does it? The gesture in itself creates a sense of excitement and possibilites</i> But I'm really not sure where the gesture is. Which is why I asked, what future? <i>Although the music works on this level (as the latest iteration of the...

But what is the future that it gestures towards, exactly?

I love grime. Just thought I'd get that out of the way. But really, why should it get the "future-oriented sound" free pass? Because it's got electronic noises on it? That's 100 years old, the art of noise and all that. I mean, we've gotten past the year 2000 now, we can stop going all...

bile is an unpleasant thing oh sorry, i mean nihilation!

Can't help but wonder why you're all so outraged. I can only imagine the Monkeys must be omnipresent in Britain right now or something. But why not just change the channel? Perhaps if we were living in a world with just a few cultural options, their success might matter, might mean something...

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I don't really base my enjoyment of music on whether it's "revolutionary" in some form. It's nice when somebody does something truly new, but it rarely happens and it's not the only mark of quality by a long shot. I hadn't heard Eno at the time, although I was aware some people thought there was...

<i>I can name at least two Eno albums sounding a lot like SAW2: On Land and Music For Films.</i> I do love On Land, and there is an uncanniness about it... but I still don't think it actually sounds that much like SAW II. It's more diffuse, more layered, it sort of burbles away. SAW II tends to...

<i>The endless praise for SAW2 is a bit of a mystery to me. It's great ambient for sure, but hardly revolutionary considering that Eno had done something allmost similar - and much better - ten years before</i> It's just a beautiful record. It sounds like dreaming. I don't think it really is...

This thread took only four posts to fulfill its destiny. Impressive!

<i>big name bloggers! is that some sort of cartel?</i> definitely. you all meet in switzerland to confirm aesthetic preferences and plot global music blog domination <i>what separates it from jay dee?</i> the cosmic vibes. it's the basslines that are similar. i think jay dee probably does...

<i>cant hear innervisions and songs and talking book without feeling its heart FM.</i> I don't know what heart FM is. A radio station? Anyway, one thought I have in relation to canon vs. non-canon is, I think canonical records almost have an extra hurdle to jump, inasmuch as they become so...

<i> There's no such thing as a definitive list. Surely the whole point of them is simply to spread the love</i> Sigh. This message board is so misnamed. It should be called I Love Music. <i>Doesn't seem to be any garage/psyche stuff or that much in the way of soul or rock n roll or many other...

<i>i know its a list more or less made up of woebots personal favourites, so its probably pointless disputing the choices</i> no no no! the sole point of these lists is to dispute the choices. you can't fall back on this "personal favorites" crap. if it's just personal favorites, then we're all...

<i>i think this is simply a personal list of faves rather than an ultimate list of the best records ever</i> What's the difference? Woebot explictly says he believes these records beat out the kind of records that "tick all the important boxes with medals to prove it," as you not very wittily...

<i>finding most of this stuff on CD or as vinyl reissues should not be too hard! </i> It's not finding them. You can find anything these days. In that sense, nothing is obscure. It's passing over stone cold classics in favor of less well-known choices. Only a hardcore music geek would describe...

hits and misses for me so far... Oar--50/50, some of its truly cracked soul, some of it just sounds like a draggy mess Neu 75--I love Can so much, I always want to get behind Neu, but somehow I can't quite... where's the funk? Feels like time has passed this by Pere Ubu--yes! finally they hit...