UK EU Referendum Aftermath

droid

droid

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Regardless of the socialist dream, Britain is on a one way trip to the bottom and it would be insanity not to attempt to break the chain before you get pulled under with it.

It's also not ridiculous to imagine Scotland gaining special status and aid from the EU, if only as a strategic bulwark against a US backed rogue state determined to destroy quality of life for all but the wealthiest of its citizens.
 
Mr. Tea

Mr. Tea

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droid is rubbing his hands together so hard I can actually hear it from where I'm sitting.
 
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craner

Beast of Burden
The SNP's assumption that it can get a simple, easy, pain-free entry into the EU is as fantastical as the Tories' assumption that it can strike a "great deal" if it leaves.

It's all theoretical bluster. There will be pain and gain in both cases. It will basically be worse, though, than it was before these ludicrous referenda.
 
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craner

Beast of Burden
Putin is the person rubbing his hands with glee, here. EU in crisis. UK on the edge of disintegration. US in Federal meltdown. Poland pulling the rug. France in crisis. Germany in crisis. Turkey going mad. NATO subverted by a US President. Syria won for Assad.

It's all going brilliantly.
 
droid

droid

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The Scots have a chance to get out before theyre trapped in the rubble. It will be hard, but they have a chance.

NI is another story. Thats gonna be a real disaster. Wait until the UDA starts a bombing campaign against the regime that sold Unionism down the river.
 
droid

droid

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The carbon bubble will burst before 2023. Saudi reserves have just been downgraded by 18 trillion. Russia will be bankrupt in less than 5 years.
 
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sadmanbarty

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1) Russia GDP and oil price

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=r...z9TSAhXNFsAKHcyGA8wQ_AUICSgC&biw=1280&bih=620

2) Brexit voting areas are going to be worst hit by the economic fallout — while London will be ok

http://uk.businessinsider.com/study-brexit-vote-economic-impact-article-50-2017-3

3) I'm sure it's been pointed out before but the arguments with regards to sovereignty and the economy are very similar for scottish independence and the eu referendum ("project fear" was coined by the snp). It's bizarre how brazenly both the snp and the brexiteers take the complete opposite tact on the two issues.
 
droid

droid

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Here is the question the people of Scotland will face in the next independence referendum: when England falls out of the boat like a block of concrete, do you want your foot tied to it?

It would be foolish to deny that there are risks in leaving the United Kingdom. Scotland’s economy is weak, not least because it has failed to wean itself off North Sea oil. There are major questions, not yet resolved, about the currency it would use; its trading relationship with the rump of the UK; and its association with the European Union, which it’s likely to try to rejoin.
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Monbiot 100% OTM https://www.theguardian.com/comment...-may-dragging-uk-under-scotland-must-cut-rope
 
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comelately

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All this talk about WTO rules, mostly nonsense-on-stilts as it might be, is nonetheless predicated on the continued existence of the WTO as a vaguely credible institution. Given the squabbles between Trump & China, that has to be in doubt.

And now the Germans are getting in on it:

https://t.co/VjwGedyow0

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We zee you in hell England!
 
Mr. Tea

Mr. Tea

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sadmanbarty said:
Ukip AM: Access to European single market 'critical' for Welsh farmers post-Brexit

A Ukip Welsh Assembly Member says rural communities must not lose out as a result of Brexit and access to the European single market is a "critical priority" once Britain leaves.

http://www.itv.com/news/wales/2017-...arket-critical-for-welsh-farmers-post-brexit/
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Bit fucking late for that, isn't it? Another reminder of the tragically ironic fact that, while London and some of the other larger/more prosperous cities will probably be more or less OK, the areas due to suffer most after Brexit are the very areas that voted for it.
 
Mr. Tea

Mr. Tea

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droid said:
Wait... have all the recent 'highest ever' scaremongering immigration figures included 164,000 foreign students? Something almost no other country does? Does this mean actual net immigration is closer to 150,000 per annum rather than the 335,000 headline figure?

https://www.ft.com/content/a1b695da-07e7-11e7-97d1-5e720a26771b
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Well most foreign students are going to come here for a few years and then presumably go home or go somewhere else, so whether they're counted or not will make little difference to net immigration. However I wouldn't put it past this bunch of lunatics to count a reduction in international students coming here as some sort of success even though it has no long-term impact on the population. Who needs their money, anyway? I mean, our universities have got more cash than they know what to do with!
 
droid

droid

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Definitely a strong case now to be made for a gentle, soft spoken intervention, drugged tea, and then a soft, warm, locked room somewhere where the UK can no longer harm herself or others.
 
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