im sure u know it but just ftr there is a distinction between labour and labour power.
capital by karl marx.
im sure u know it but just ftr there is a distinction between labour and labour power.
yyaldrin
in je ogen waait de wind
why are there no barricades on the streets, except in france? london is unaffordable, paris is unaffordable, amsterdam is unaffordable, renting prices in berlin are exploding. i can literally see the number of homeless people growing each year. aren't we close to a tipping point, where is the tipping point? or is everybody just gonna take a second and third job?
Leo
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I get your overall point but in this case, they're laughing at the absurdity of asking a billionaire if he's in favor of increasing taxes on billionaires.
but watch the entire video, the guy from MIT pushes back on the notion that higher taxes on the mega-wealthy stifles economic growth.
but watch the entire video, the guy from MIT pushes back on the notion that higher taxes on the mega-wealthy stifles economic growth.
firefinga
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Smartphones and social media killed any revolutionary intent. Those two things are now clearly agents of the reactionary forces.
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Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
Well wasn't the period from roughly the end of WWII up to the early 70s an era of unprecedented economic growth as well as phenomenal cultural, scientific and technological innovation, when the top tax rate in many developed countries was at a level that sounds completely insane today?
vimothy
yurp
Yes that's true. At the same time people can always point to the issue of causation which can't be definitely resolved. Perhaps you need that post war level of growth to sustain tax rates like that - which is why, is growth rates tailed off, so too did tax rates ...
firefinga
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There is a trend within pretty much any OECD country though (going on for 20, 30 years) of the highest 5% icome the tax rates have been lowered, whereas the tax rates for "middle class" income has hardly ever been reduced. Resulting in the richest 5% getting richer faster in relative and absolute terms. Overall meager growth rates of the ecomonies in zhe OECD having very little to do with this.
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
There are so many ways for the very wealthy to get out of paying tax in the UK that people on middling incomes now pay on average a slightly higher overall rate of tax than high earners, I believe. And of course it's the interests of the very rich that are represented by the pressure group Taxpayers' Alliance - which probably ought to be called the Tax-avoider's Alliance - and not the middle classes who pay the bulk of the country's taxes (let alone the working class, obviously).
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because we live under a stalinist democracy, basically.
We have a militarised police state but they will always tell us we can change it. by the time the campaigning tries to take power, it has already made so many concessions to capital. we saw this with corbynism. makes some 60s tories look like anarchists.
Our text from 1921 concludes in this fashion:
«We understand that the final battle will most likely be against a government of ex-socialists; but it is not our duty to facilitate their coming to power; rather to prepare the working class to see it from the beginning as a declaration of war instead of a cease fire that opens to a peaceful resolution of the problems of the revolution.»
http://www.sinistra.net/lib/upt/intpap/pitu/pituccocae.html
«We understand that the final battle will most likely be against a government of ex-socialists; but it is not our duty to facilitate their coming to power; rather to prepare the working class to see it from the beginning as a declaration of war instead of a cease fire that opens to a peaceful resolution of the problems of the revolution.»
http://www.sinistra.net/lib/upt/intpap/pitu/pituccocae.html