i think i might have listened to both before, but have forgotten it all. they both are influenced by mcluhan's views as well right?
i'll try and find them and listen again
(i am interested again in RAW and mckenna after a bit of a gap cos i read the tao lin book 'trip' recently. it's quite good - the non-fiction sections at the start are a bit hit and miss but the best bit is where he writes himself as the third person in a longish final chapter, a sort of novella i suppose, and describes going on a trip to SF to take part in a 'plant drawing' workshop with kathleen harrison (= mckennas ex-wife) where people basically draw plants/leaves under magnifiers to get a sense of the fractal nature of things. so it becomes less about drugs per se and more about perspectives in general... sorry wandering off topic a bit here)