luka

Well-known member
information is a broader term. i dont know what numerology could possibly have to do with intuition in all honesty. nobody goes around intuiting that stuff. you need to do sums.
 

john eden

male pale and stale
In addition to the trench coats there is all that alt-right bullshit about red pilling and blue pilling including this film. I've not seen it yet but it seems to be a standard "feminism has gone too far what about the menz" argument.

The Matrix has also encouraged an individualist take on enlightenment and shattering this world of illusion, which is why nerds like it. (See also : Nietzsche).

A weirdly messianic take on the society of the spectacle, was my impression at the time when me and Paul Meme saw it at the cinema.
 

john eden

male pale and stale
Whereas Ghostbusters has that awesome Ray Parker Junior tune and a demonically possessed Sigourney Weaver.

And the all-female follow up which annoyed Matrix fans so much.
 

john eden

male pale and stale
Also there is undeniable overlap between fans of The Matrix and those creepy men who like all that Japanese manga teen porn stuff.

This is not true of Ghostbusters.
 

john eden

male pale and stale
Ultimately we should be compassionate with Matrix fans though.

All their pea-cocking about enlightenment is simply a result of the alienation we all experience as a product of capitalist social relations.

This is the Stay Puft Marshmallow Man we need to overcome as a class in order to herald a new world. A world of free love, abundance and global communism.
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
And the all-female follow up which annoyed Matrix fans so much.

Obviously a lot of dickheads hated this film for shitty reasons (mostly without having even seen it, I expect) but I've deliberately avoided watching it because it was obviously crap. Nothing to do with the cast and everything to do with being a nakedly cynical cash-in reboot of a well-loved classic, because when has that ever resulted in anything good?
 

baboon2004

Darned cockwombles.
Well, the very particular shitty reasons of hating women being shown in shitkicking-hero-type roles. Because that's the protected role of the male.

The film isn't very good (I watched it), but it can only really be criticised for cynical cash-in rebootness inasmuch as any remake can be (and you could probably include Ghostbusters II in that, cos I only remember one good new joke). And some remakes of classics are good. Admittedly not many.
 

droid

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Ghostbusters 2 is actually OK, bar the Statue of Liberty jingoism.

The remake was pretty shit. Not as bad as some remakes though. The all female cast was one of the better things about it.
 

baboon2004

Darned cockwombles.
It's OK, but I'd rather watch Ghostbusters for the 75th time than I would watch Ghostbusters II ever again. Peter MacNicol makes a poor villain, though his role in the film pantheon was assured after Sophie's Choice so I doubt he cared much.

I think the good joke was about a manhole cover.
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
Well, the very particular shitty reasons of hating women being shown in shitkicking-hero-type roles. Because that's the protected role of the male.

The film isn't very good (I watched it), but it can only really be criticised for cynical cash-in rebootness inasmuch as any remake can be (and you could probably include Ghostbusters II in that, cos I only remember one good new joke). And some remakes of classics are good. Admittedly not many.

Right, and I generally avoid those as much as possible.

GBII was a perfectly OK film in itself and suffers mainly in comparison to the obviously far superior first film. But it was at least a proper sequel with a (somewhat) different storyline and some new characters.

What was the 'one good joke'? I bet it was Egon's "We had part of a slinky - but I straightened it..."
 
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luka

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no one would be more thrilled than me if eden strung two interesting words together
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
Also there is undeniable overlap between fans of The Matrix and those creepy men who like all that Japanese manga teen porn stuff.

This is not true of Ghostbusters.

no one would be more thrilled than me if eden strung two interesting words together

Lol, luka's just sore than john has seen through his affable internet persona to the man he really is.

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