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Are you drunk? Wonder's album is serious.
It's a lot more forward thinking than the countless mixtape/street albums of mediocre MCing over dipset beats. I think Wonder's album is a lot more of an objective look of where grime could go, and seeing as he is a very reputable grime producer, I like that he is thinking in these ways.
I was really glad to see him take grime/dubstep production and attempt to move it in all sorts of directions without really bastardizing it, which is what virtually every other grime artist who has attempted to make an album has done. Unlike Roll Deep, Wonder saw some ways grime could evolve and did something great with it. It's still fully representative of the scene, totally an underground effort, and its experimentation isn't wanky or unrealistic.
I was waiting for an album like this for ages. Even though I wouldn't give it a 10/10, I don't think it even matters. It is a 10 in my head for even suggesting a viable and creative way to push the envelope in a genre I love.
Your chest, Wonder.
It's a lot more forward thinking than the countless mixtape/street albums of mediocre MCing over dipset beats. I think Wonder's album is a lot more of an objective look of where grime could go, and seeing as he is a very reputable grime producer, I like that he is thinking in these ways.
I was really glad to see him take grime/dubstep production and attempt to move it in all sorts of directions without really bastardizing it, which is what virtually every other grime artist who has attempted to make an album has done. Unlike Roll Deep, Wonder saw some ways grime could evolve and did something great with it. It's still fully representative of the scene, totally an underground effort, and its experimentation isn't wanky or unrealistic.
I was waiting for an album like this for ages. Even though I wouldn't give it a 10/10, I don't think it even matters. It is a 10 in my head for even suggesting a viable and creative way to push the envelope in a genre I love.
Your chest, Wonder.
ill give it another listen if i can find it but i found the vocal tracks and the vocalists pretty crap (bar gods gift). considering 90% of the album was vocal-led, i find it dissapointing. then theres the fact amazing as what was, his tracks are quite limited in terms of their movement and palette - theres only so many things wonder can do. hes not exploding with ideas. maybe that kind of ultra stiff thing is just his style but he seems to rely on it too much as he cant think of any other way of doing things. and his melodic/ambient melodies arent really up to much. im filing this album under that 'good singles, not so good album' category of dance producers.
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I thought Nio over Best Foot Forward worked well actually - probably my favourite track on the album. It sounds sort of out of tune which actually works really nicely. Comes across as sinister, but without just relying on showerman bars.
Still, horses for courses n all that.
mos dan
fact music
welcome to wonderland is a great album, so varied in terms of vox, but brilliantly held together by the production - i don't think it's that stiff at all.
(incidentally the aftershock album is similarly successful in this broad, rnb vox-plux-showeman-bars way)
and the wonder album didn't sink for want of trying in terms of crossover... it had a full launch at fwd, and fairly serious PR. my mate reviewed it for the new statesman, i reviewed it for the word.. obviously this isn't quite enough to 'make' an album in itself lol.
i saw klass a at the fabric dirtee stank showcase over a year ago, they were rrrraaabish.
(incidentally the aftershock album is similarly successful in this broad, rnb vox-plux-showeman-bars way)
and the wonder album didn't sink for want of trying in terms of crossover... it had a full launch at fwd, and fairly serious PR. my mate reviewed it for the new statesman, i reviewed it for the word.. obviously this isn't quite enough to 'make' an album in itself lol.
i saw klass a at the fabric dirtee stank showcase over a year ago, they were rrrraaabish.
it's just the delivery
and produckle which is swag - his voice is way too measured now - all that mad frustration and anger is gone but....its evolution
there's a live version that's only seen light once on semtex's show which was much better - had a singalong, dirty south chorus, jumpy jumpy feel to it
now for my Diz fix I check Tinie Tempa, Ears (sometimes) or Dirty Dangerous
welcome to wonderland is mucky. my boy gave it album of the month
I've been saying for ages that grime/nukg producers should be doing this - wonder smacked it
that nio guy and track is swagalag lol
and produckle which is swag - his voice is way too measured now - all that mad frustration and anger is gone but....its evolution
there's a live version that's only seen light once on semtex's show which was much better - had a singalong, dirty south chorus, jumpy jumpy feel to it
now for my Diz fix I check Tinie Tempa, Ears (sometimes) or Dirty Dangerous
welcome to wonderland is mucky. my boy gave it album of the month
I've been saying for ages that grime/nukg producers should be doing this - wonder smacked it
that nio guy and track is swagalag lol
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Event this Saturday:
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Flow Dan, Killa P, Badness, DJ Spyro
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Flow Dan, Killa P, Badness, DJ Spyro
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sodiumnightlife
Sweet Virginia
I fucking love that agent x mixtape, such a load of insanely good music. i also love how it you can hear the guys nokia phone going off when he gets a text. cheers for hosting this.
mos dan
fact music
anyone interested in a sweepstake on which politician will be first to mention 'grime music' or 'urban music' or 'rap music' when interviewed about the shootings in south london, and how long it'll take to become part of 'the debate'...
i'm going for john reid/sunday morning breakfast shows
with a saver on peter hain/tomorrow morning's newspapers
maybe it's time to put roll deep's 'badman' front and centre again, as weak as the song is?
sigh...
i'm going for john reid/sunday morning breakfast shows
with a saver on peter hain/tomorrow morning's newspapers
maybe it's time to put roll deep's 'badman' front and centre again, as weak as the song is?
sigh...
i know were meant to not like grime MCs doing hip hop tracks but this is really good - plan b feat skepta and jme - probably one of jmes best written and non-digressing verses. its on skeptas myspace page.
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=63894865
just read the dubstep/grime column on pitchfork - seems wiley is only retiring from emceeing, not producing - cool. i think this is a good thing personally. i think all the war and hype hes been so obsessed with has taken away from what wiley is best at - beatmaking. maybe now hell raise the bar again...
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just read the dubstep/grime column on pitchfork - seems wiley is only retiring from emceeing, not producing - cool. i think this is a good thing personally. i think all the war and hype hes been so obsessed with has taken away from what wiley is best at - beatmaking. maybe now hell raise the bar again...
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definitely agreeable.
outraygeous
Well-known member
i mentioned this ages ago
currently, if your black - doing music is long.
hadoken get play outs everywhere playing grime music whereas grime events get closed down quicker than a kebab shop with cockroaches.
i reckon they have pics of grime mcs at the hq of operation trident.
big up venom thou - doing his thing
currently, if your black - doing music is long.
hadoken get play outs everywhere playing grime music whereas grime events get closed down quicker than a kebab shop with cockroaches.
i reckon they have pics of grime mcs at the hq of operation trident.
big up venom thou - doing his thing
mistersloane
heavy heavy monster sound
new Kano track that Logan dropped on this week's show is fucking wicked.