Cities we applaud
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baboon2004
Darned cockwombles.
you could give it a go, though.
Thank you for reconfirming the reasons why I neevr want to visit Australia btw.
scottdisco
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scottdisco
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gotcha.
wrt Melbourne public transport, Angus G namechecks you and i Luka (!) in this old post here, btw (where i ask a stupid question, quelle surprise)
in a pleasant surprise when i first went there (this says everything about my stupid preconceptions about a car culture, and nothing about anything else), a lot of American and Canadian cities do have good public transport (well, certainly a lot of the big ones in my experience, including 24-7 trains, and a very nice free bus system that spreads across downtown Portland, incidentally).
obviously European cities do good public transport.
apart from Manchester's Metrolink tram.
{drum-roll please..}
boom-boom!!
baboon2004
Darned cockwombles.
Don't think that this was a stupid preconeption at all. Think it depends on the way the city's laid out, its history etc. The private/public transport thing in America often seems to illustrate a sharp class divide, at least in some of the cities I've been to, ie poor people take the bus.
scottdisco
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i certainly applaud this pair going for it - Broadway, Sydney
scottdisco
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yup, good point. see also the way that zoning laws have historically evolved to mean that poorer communities are quite literally frozen where they are, and all the knock on effects this has for area schooling etc, and the economic health of that community etc.
i have been told about certain sorts of zoning in the midwest that are highly exclusionary for African-Americans. (i can't back this up as i forget the details, but the person telling it me knew what they were on about.)
incidentally, NYC is one of the most racially segregated cities around AFAIK.
and it's true, the older cities (eg Boston, DC, Philadelphia etc off top of my head) tend to have better overall public transport than the newer ones (although the two big ones in the Pacific Northwest are good, and LA was better than i expected it to be). there again, in London that's also often said - albeit perhaps a bit flippantly - isn't it? that cleavage, between bus and tube? (not as much as large American urban areas, i'm sure.)
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
If London's #25 bus route had existed in Dante's time, he'd have made it a Circle of Hell all by itself. No joke.
Cleavage is best viewed from the top deck, IME. Fnar fnar.
Bettysnake
twisted pony ******
Proper cities;
Newcastle
Alexandria
Berlin
Brighton is actually a really nice town, but no, not a city.
Newcastle
Alexandria
Berlin
Brighton is actually a really nice town, but no, not a city.
Slothrop
Tight but Polite
Brighton always feels like cheating somehow, it really does my head in.
Sheffield and Newcastle are places I'd like to spend more time.
Bettysnake
twisted pony ******
Is it because its small? or because its full of skateboarding 40 something men? why is it cheaty?
Brighton's main problem is that the streets are crawling with apologetic Guardian journalists - wherever I go that beardy guy Alex Petridis who wears embarrassing clothes seems to be there, including the kids playground in our local park.
sufi
lala
yes indeed
Slothrop
Tight but Polite
I don't know, really. It just has that slightly unreal air - I get the same thing a bit with Cambridge, only where in Cambridge it's embarassingly easy to find nice pubs, second hand bookshops, general highbrow stuff, in Brighton it seems embarassingly easy to find, I dunno, 'funky' clothes shops, ska-rockabilly-prog nights, all that malarky. And the closet puritan / masochist in me refuses to appreciate anything like that unless I've had to plough through a load of listings, endure some grim public transport epic and then get lost in the rain in a load of backstreets somewhere near Whitechapel first.
It's similar to the way that I can't just enjoy a nice country pub, I have to slog up some hills in shit weather first.
It might just be me being weird tbh.
sufi
lala
how about Bath? - similar but also different