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    I meant the Labour side of the campaign, yes - such as it was - plus whatever centrist Tories may have had the balls to put pressure on the government from the left/centre in the same way the party's lunatic fringe did from the right.
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    Not really sure which thread to put this in, but:

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/...r-benefit-cuts

    This case - aside from being horrendous at a human level - is an interesting one for the father's lifelong devotion to voting Tory ("I felt utterly let down"), and the general sense from both parents that 'we never believed this could happen to us'. Whereas of course, he or they were quite happy for similar devastation to happen to people poorer and more disposable than they felt themselves to be.

    Interesting to know how other middle class Tory voters view the predicament of this family and similar cases i.e. people that they might relate to at some level, not just dismiss as the 'undeserving poor'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baboon2004 View Post
    ("I felt utterly let down"), and the general sense from both parents that 'we never believed this could happen to us'.
    Or, as I've seen it succinctly put:

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    "A low-income single parent with a baby, earning 17,300 a year, will be 530 worse off, losing 610 from benefit cuts while gaining 80 from tax cuts.

    A middle-income working couple earning 33,500 a year, with three children including a baby, will be 2,500 worse off overall, losing 2,700 from benefit cuts while gaining 160 from tax cuts.

    A high-income couple with two children, earning 100,000 a year, will be 480 better off, with no benefit losses and all gains stemming from tax cuts."

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics...budget-changes

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    Social care system 'beginning to collapse' as 900 carers quit every day

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-39507859

    A little context

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    and this probably isn't helping:

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    Quote Originally Posted by baboon2004 View Post
    Not really sure which thread to put this in, but:

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/...r-benefit-cuts

    This case - aside from being horrendous at a human level - is an interesting one for the father's lifelong devotion to voting Tory ("I felt utterly let down"), and the general sense from both parents that 'we never believed this could happen to us'. Whereas of course, he or they were quite happy for similar devastation to happen to people poorer and more disposable than they felt themselves to be.

    Interesting to know how other middle class Tory voters view the predicament of this family and similar cases i.e. people that they might relate to at some level, not just dismiss as the 'undeserving poor'.
    It's just that those people then will very likely vote for the radical right in the next election.

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    I don't know...maybe, but there's also a possibility that the mood is right for a resurgence of a party like the Lib Dems in the UK, as an outlet for people allergic to socialist ideas but disgusted by the depth of the neoliberal-inspired cuts. Especially if their views coincide on Brexit (i.e. those middle class people sympathetic to Remain).
    You're probably right though, because I'm making the mistake of attributing some kind of rationality to people's voting intentions.

    Did even some Conservative MPs express disgust at the most recent cuts, or was that my imagination?
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    What I want to know is, where's the party for people who are actually fairly amenable to socialist ideas but who also look for something in a leader other than impotent purity?
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    Yes, there seems to be a (minor) trend of late that the neoliberal gospel isn't sacrosanct any longer and it's beeing critisized by a few conservative politicians/commentators lately. It's hardly bc of a deeper understanding how toxic that gospel is for society/environment etc - the thing which was called once "the common good".

    I rather have the impression that finally the pyramide sheme that neoliberal policies are (cuts of taxes/benefits for the "undeserving" etc in order to secure the 10%+ profit rates for the 5% of the really rich) isn't working any longer since unemployment is deeply creeping into the middle classes these days. More and more people who (believed they) were always playing by the rules are getting thrown under the bus by those who promoted those rules.

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    Snap election, June 8.

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    Very clever move. Let's get the most out of it while you still can (and before the shit that will likely be caused by Brexit fully kicks in).

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    I think she would have been better off waiting it out and then jumping off the bus just before it careens off the cliff in about 2 years.

    Further evidence that she is a power mad cretin.

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    Al the more reason to crack on with the election.

    I'm sure the police wouldn't want their investigations to interfere with these candidates' rights to participate in the democratic process? And after all they are innocent until proven guilty... best put it all on hold until after June... or the summer...

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