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a load of gobshites arguing the toss on an obscure corner of the web. how is that relevant? or did i not get your point?Look at the comments under the Monbiot tweet upthread if you'd like to see how this plays out.
a load of gobshites arguing the toss on an obscure corner of the web. how is that relevant? or did i not get your point?Look at the comments under the Monbiot tweet upthread if you'd like to see how this plays out.
daddy knows best
A classic thread-bumpo from dissensus' anti-conspiranaut faction, who seem to feel the irresistible need to promote conspiracies and assign them to shadowy "groups" and "movements" from the fringes of cyberspace and social media "They are everywhere and getting more and more!"
Luckily our antis are so insightful that only they can perceive the enormous false consciousness that these theoretical conspiranoids are labouring under.
phew, thank goodness for the woke sheeple, where's my laughing crying smiley :crylarf:
and so, if you're saying that the harm caused by your theoretical misled hordes of conspiranauts being distracted from the real evils of the world, i simply disagree, in that even if a small number of real conspiracies are exposed by inquisitive minds encouraged by this cultural phenomenon, the benefit of that may outweigh what you see as a net disadvantage.
Or are you going to explain how you "Objectively" quantify that?
a load of gobshites arguing the toss on an obscure corner of the web. how is that relevant? or did i not get your point?
&Yeah m8 maybe you're right m8, and Aids isn't real, cultural marxists are trying to wipe out the white race and Hilary Clinton really is the ringleader of a global paedo gang. Where's my Alex-Jones-yelling-himself-hoarse-emoji?
You have this fantasy of slavering tin-hatted conspiracy theorists, which is cherry picked from the most extreme and disproportionate examples, and used to bully humble souls into silence.None of the conspiracies being talked bout on here (I think) are NOT permitted. Or has anybody ever been banned by perpetuating any? Plus, as if any conspiracy nut, errrr truther ever stopped believing his "truth" when confronted with stuff others consider more plausible. See, I am also able to promote (mild) relativism.
It's important to recognise I think that people talk a lot of old cobblers online. That's not the same as engaging with the real world. Monbiot himself is fairly far out on the tentacles of the MSM, if you're suggesting somehow that this long stream of confused non-sequiturs is a useful discussion then it's off to bed with no telly for you eden.Well are they gobshites or is their view as valid as anyone else's, Dad?
You have this fantasy of slavering tin-hatted conspiracy theorists, which is cherry picked from the most extreme and disproportionate examples
How so? Don't you think that there may be actual forces a little closer to the events that have a real impact, such as armed groups, weapons dealers, rampaging states and non-states, ineffectual diplomats,Maybe we could use term "atrocity enablers" instead of gobshites? But I guess that's being somehow oppressive.
Ah, only a matter of time before luka brought out his favourite strawman!
its not a strawman. you havent quite understood what it means yet
How so? Don't you think that there may be actual forces a little closer to the events that have a real impact, such as armed groups, weapons dealers, rampaging states and non-states, ineffectual diplomats,
You are dignifying these bullshitters with an agency that doesn’t exist, creating the strawman that allows you to pour scorn on the likes of Daniel Morgan, The Chagos Islanders, Gary Webb, ... the list goes on
ok i think i get you now.But their bullshit is ultimately driven by States. Assad has used conspiratorial claims about outside interference to de-legitimise the opposition since before the conflict started, and Russia fights a kind of cyberwar with similar ends, supporting its strategic goals and attacking opponents. The net was flooded with counter-claims about Khan Sheikhoun in the days after the attack, most probably due to the unpredictability of Trump and his authorisation of the attack on Al-Shayrat airbase. This is an interesting account of a Russian troll factory: https://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/07/magazine/the-agency.html and there've been several other similar reports, I posted another good piece upthread.