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    Quite a confluence today in London
    A reported 4000 protesters out today
    Video of people pushing , shoving on CNN Int. right now
    One square filled with people , many in black blocking access to a major highway is it ?
    Tonight sounds like it could get hot ...
    How's it for Dissensians out in there ?

    Merkl looks for regulation
    China comes in strong
    Russia - US talk nuke reduction for first time in dunno , 10 years
    The N Korea missile they said was a sat sits on the launch pad, but lost game to S Korea
    Sudans leader pretty much fetted and defended
    Conficker computer virus April 1

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    Crackerjack
    just hearing from TV about the police tactic you experienced at the protest-
    keeping protesters fenced in and not letting people out once they are in !
    Must have been crazy to be in it ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by polystyle desu View Post
    Crackerjack
    just hearing from TV about the police tactic you experienced at the protest-
    keeping protesters fenced in and not letting people out once they are in !
    Must have been crazy to be in it ...
    "kettling" - been doing it at least since Mayday 2000. Keep protestors confined for hours and watch them get angrier and angrier.

    We like our ritualistic confrontations in London.

    I'm off up there to have a look in a minute. (it's on my way home).

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    Quote Originally Posted by polystyle desu View Post
    Crackerjack
    just hearing from TV about the police tactic you experienced at the protest-
    keeping protesters fenced in and not letting people out once they are in !
    Must have been crazy to be in it ...
    It was pretty calm for the first hour or so, then people started getting pissed off (and pissing - an informal bog was set about behind some banners strapped to the railings and the pavement looked like it was the centre of a rainstorm).

    I began on Threadneedle St, then left when the dickheads started chucking red paint and bottles at the police (that reminds me - does putting your trainers thru the washing machine fuck them or the machine up?).

    I asked one copper why we hadn't been warned what would happen and he said "we don't give away all our secrets". You could sense peopl getting increasingly ratty about being hemmed in. I was determined to sit it oout and avoid any violence, but I'd just had enough and there was a pretty clear tipping point when you could see a tide of people moving towards the Cheapside cordon so I joined that.

    Once everyone deciced they were breaking through there was nothing the police could do to stop it. It didn't actually seem that violent and I got through without any major fuss, just a lot of pushing and pulling, some people trying to whack police with placards. I did my Ghandi bit, then kept on walking. Been reading guardian blogs and it seems minutes after wee broke through there they started letting people out.

    I just don't understand the thinking that says the best way to handle a crowd with about 2-300 slightly violent people is to hem everyone else in with them against their will, so you've got thousands of demonstrators instead of hundreds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by john eden View Post
    "kettling" - been doing it at least since Mayday 2000. Keep protestors confined for hours and watch them get angrier and angrier.
    It was clearly a prearranged tactic. The PCs station at one cordon wanred us beforehand that this might happen, so i went around to the one on Threadneedle St which ws pretty lax. Until.


    I'm off up there to have a look in a minute. (it's on my way home).
    I'm getting the Free John Eden banners ready

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    Quote Originally Posted by crackerjack View Post

    I just don't understand the thinking that says the best way to handle a crowd with about 2-300 slightly violent people is to hem everyone else in with them against their will, so you've got thousands of demonstrators instead of hundreds.
    It's a top tactic, works, and has a lot to do with human dynamics. Technically, it's easier to police 800 fenced off, fed up folks (and this tactic goes way back to football matches in the 60s and 70s) than it is having smaller groups running around freely. Just look what happens to people when their tube's stuck in a tunnel for a hour on a sweltering hot day - they normally snap and lose it with each other.

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    '13 arrested so far, 11 for trying to bring in Police uniforms'
    people drinking inside a police corden,
    "The Climate Camp'
    'Financial Fools Day'
    'G20 Meltdown'
    'Make Capitalism History !'

    The view from Grace Church St.
    Bank Of England windows broken
    Royal Bank Of Scotland as well ?
    No cabs, hard to get around, 'completely melted down'
    Rush hour coming

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    Foyles remains intact, thus far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by polystyle desu View Post
    '13 arrested so far, 11 for trying to bring in Police uniforms'
    people drinking inside a police corden,
    "The Climate Camp'
    'Financial Fools Day'
    'G20 Meltdown'
    'Make Capitalism History !'

    The view from Grace Church St.
    Bank Of England windows broken
    Royal Bank Of Scotland as well ?
    No cabs, hard to get around, 'completely melted down'
    Rush hour coming
    23 arrests so far, RBS the main target of window-smashers - lots of good TV footage. I like the fake coppers idea - but how were they so stupid as to get caught?

    Foyles remains intact, thus far.
    Amidst armageddon, pockets of civlisation remain.

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    It's a bloody lovely day, though. Perfect weather for rioting!

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    Quote Originally Posted by craner View Post
    It's a bloody lovely day, though. Perfect weather for rioting!
    Do you work in Foyles then? I'd have come and chucked a brick if I'd known.

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    Yes, but please don't throw a brick at me you nihilist.

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    Rain in the Middle East
    Drone attack kills 8 in Pakistan
    Orissa. Rare tornado on India's East Coast
    Helicopter ditches in North Sea with 16 onboard
    Canadian Oil Co. confirms 1000 seabird deaths
    Natalie Cole liver transplant
    Rare dolphins discovered in jungle

    world leaders arriving via the Quadrangle inside Buckingham Palace
    Obama , the Queen , Brown , Merkl , Hillary
    Dinner at Downing St.
    My wife happens to be in London as of yesterday ,
    will be hearing how she's doing today in all this activity !

    What's the soundtrack to today and tomorrow's street fighting ...
    ?

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