A TV debate late in the campaign showcases the appeal of far-right leader Geert Wilders, who pulled off a shock victory in Dutch elections on Wednesday.
He was up against Frans Timmermans, the socialist standard bearer who returned from Brussels in a vain attempt to stop his homeland’s rightward tilt.
“You speak, I believe, seven languages,” Wilders told the son of a diplomat and ex-European commissioner. “But not the language of the people.”
woahThe revelation that my mother voted "for Farage" tipped me slightly over the edge.
Decade-old news, but still shocking!woah
You reckon? I bet tons of them have hardly anything from any artists not from this country or the US.It surprised me how many Boomers signed on for the anti-immigration ticket. I assumed their record collections had inoculated them, which was very naive. It was a powerful lesson.
there's a story going round that becos the tories have failed to "stem the tide" of immigration, and in fact the figures show a dramatic rise over recent months, they have unwittingly saved the economy from an even worse post-truss fatethat thing people say about you should love immigrants cos they prop up the nhs sort of cuts both ways in that regard.
yes but they learned to love black music.You reckon? I bet tons of them have hardly anything from any artists not from this country or the US.
Well yeah, I was gonna say that Jimi Hendrix, Whitney Houston, Grace Jones and Bob Marley have precious little to do with the EU, so I think it'd be a bit naive (sorry @craner) to think someone with all those kinds of records would be more likely to vote Remain. Though that said, it was a very emotive issue and whether any given argument 'made sense' didn't have much impact on how popular or persuasive it was.i think thats partly why boomers were much more chilled with immigration from west indies and india. cool places with a connection to england. the beatles went to india. black people were good at dancing, smoked weed. but lost it when the east euopeans, the gypsy beggars, the north africans etc came in
Well yeah, I was gonna say that Jimi Hendrix, Whitney Houston, Grace Jones and Bob Marley have precious little to do with the EU, so I think it'd be a bit naive (sorry @craner) to think someone with all those kinds of records would be more likely to vote Remain. Though that said, it was a very emotive issue and whether any given argument 'made sense' didn't have much impact on how popular or persuasive it was.
Now that I think about it, someone of that age who at the time was too conservative to listen to black music of whatever origin was probably listening mainly to classical instead, and nearly all of the big hitters in that world were from continental Europe.
i think part of it, talking to the aged, is old people needing healthcare and finding all the staff are foreign and dont understand english and they find that scary.
Then we are both correct and everything is fine.That's why, in my post, I said it was very naive.