Rinse FM Pop music.

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
its not a shameless pastiche of old house though is it. the internet is a huge dressing up box

Actually you're right, and I couldn't help but be a bit dismissive there, in grouchy old cunt mode. What I like about this stuff is that it takes what is good, what WORKS, from long established genres and sounds. As you say, its a youthful thing to do, its shameless in the best (or at least better) sense.
 
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luka

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you are in a different energy state and mental state in winter than in summer. a lot just closes down in winter. i dont think its about colours
 

luka

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you feel different in summer than in winter cos different conditions pertain, you are different
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
http://m.newyorker.com/online/blogs/elements/2013/07/psychology-why-summer-makes-us-lazy.html

This is interesting-ish. Predictably we're happiest in summer (generally); apparently we also have less energy and our minds aren't as sharp. I like the idea that summery music might reflect this mental "wilting" with the hazy, woozy chords. I'm not schooled in theory but I find this very strong connection between summer/sun and jazzy chords - like those used by Roy Ayers e.g. Harmonies which are balanced between major and minor (though of course major chords are happy and so suited to summertime). Perhaps its as simple as these chords being beautiful and the summer optimism lending them particular beauty in the ear of the summer loving listener.
 

trilliam

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interesting thread

i like how u refer it to rinse pop music truth be told though you'll find a lot of these on regular radio playlists like u say, and a lot of them as well in the uk singles charts

theres a big house love in which im sure ur aware of, and it seems maybe rinsefm, subsoul n a cupl others were onto it from the start which is really no surprise, anyway this current trend (housey pop or just house) is so totally populist, and so readily acknowledged both as a new kind of thing (its not?) and a shift in quality/direction of current mainstream genre/standards what have u, that i feel ive typed way too much as im just stating the obvious

anyway guardian have a big article on this kind of thing
http://www.theguardian.com/music/2014/jun/14/gorgon-city-duke-dumont-new-faces-uk-pop

and this new subsoul is full of them as well
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luka

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its probably fair to give rinse some credit for creating the conditions for this to happen.
 

Benny Bunter

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yeah, remember rinse had three top ten singles and an album at number 2 in the charts with Katy B back in 2010-11. that kind of set the scene for what was gonna happen, and when ´white noise´ came out last year the floodgates opened.
 

trilliam

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i wasnt tryna downplay rinses influence, i remember how much flack they was getting for ditching a lot of their daytime specialist djs to run with this kind of playlist in the first place, obviously they been vindicated now but to take that chance geeneus n the organisation deserve a fair bit of credit

however i was just pointing out that in 2014 you're as likely to hear a playlist of "rinsefm pop" on another station as you are rinsefm simple
 

PadaEtc

Emperor Penguin
A bunch of various dance music signifiers thrown together but without the essence of what made styles good in the first place.

An acid bass line without distortion, a dubstep wobble without any sub, a disco riff without the live feel, a break beat without sounding chopped up, a catchy vocal with no meaning.

No?

At least its not the 6music daytime playlist.
 

Benny Bunter

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thing is all those use of dance music signifiers are being employed with real precision and inventiveness, in service to the SONG. there are tougher remixes and bootlegs of probably every tune here if thats what you´re after (not that they don´t all work on dancefloors as they already are, this is good quality product).

from that recent ill blu interview

There's definitely more attention to song structure. When we made 'Frontline', it was more of a vibe. We didn’t set out to make a song. Now, we've got more of a sense of understanding and structuring a song better. With funky house records back then, they were made strictly for the clubs. Now we're structuring songs with a direct view to radio and how radio works - but with its roots in the club...

...It's a fairly simple formula, to be honest: shorter intro's, less drops, around two to three minutes in length – it's about shortening the structure, but not taking away from the energy of the club...

...You do see it in Katy B though. 'Lights On' is a straight up UK funky record with R&B vocals, like many were doing, but it had a proper song structure, was released and promoted properly, targeted at the right audience. It just shows that there is an audience for it aside from the underground, and it could work
 

datwun

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I think I like this stuff more in theory than reality. I'm glad dance music is on the radio. I think there's a lot of talent in the scene, I think it's amazing that a track like White Noise would be a blow up hit, and I love the buzziness of the fact that from warehouse raves in East Croyden to the top of the charts, there's one sound of the UK at the moment - house. I just dont' like that many of the songs lol.

Seems a super similar phenomena to all that pop house in the early 2000s, but that stuff was actually great:




 

Leo

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this sort of thing used to be considered "selling out", now it's an ingenious amalgam of proper dance signifiers melded seamlessly into the pop context, LOL!

btw, i'm not a hater, i've always been a katy b fan and like some of this new stuff.
 
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Corpsey

bandz ahoy
this is probably about the 3rd time ive posted this tune on here, but fuck it

Shift K3y - touch..

This tune was on in the gym today (along with another three or four from this thread). He must be the most potent sexual symbol I've come across in music since D'Angelo started super-sizing all his meals. It would be quite fitting if the British version of Chris Brown turned out to be a gawky looking white kid with subzero swag.
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
100% was such a great tune. Disclosure have a couple of great ones - Running RMX, You & Me, Latch. That Ministry of Sound Deep House compilation from 2013 was a good round up of this stuff. I think there might be part two now?
 

paolo

Mechanical phantoms
I like this tune

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I heard it on a car advert :cool:
 

Benny Bunter

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This tune was on in the gym today (along with another three or four from this thread). He must be the most potent sexual symbol I've come across in music since D'Angelo started super-sizing all his meals. It would be quite fitting if the British version of Chris Brown turned out to be a gawky looking white kid with subzero swag.

yes he´s gawky, but thats his actual girlfriend in the video for ´touch´ if i´m not mistaken so he´s doing pretty well for himself haha. (btw, did you notice the crafty swipe from ´be your girl´ - i know you´re a big fan of that one right?). and please, don´t even joke about chris brown.

anyway corpsey you MUST check this guys other stuff out if you haven´t already, super talented producer, adept at making garage, house, grime, even trappy edm bangers. he´s been bubbling under for a few years now and is really starting to come into his own with his self-vocalled tunes.


AlunaGeorge - Attracting Flies (Shift K3y remix) - you´ll like this if you´re into preditah

What we had

Make it good


love him
 
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