Jeremy Corbyn

glasshand

dj panic attack
It's not about hip, it's about appealing to a particular demographic who are decidedly NOT hip, but vote.

Also, people like Novelist have come out in support of Corbyn, which is pretty hip in my book.

These things are always excruciating but they do serve a function.

talking of this, Scribz/LD of 67 has been supporting Labour for a while on twitter.

feel like trying to point it out to someone in Labour. surreal as it would be, sometime in the future 67 might be able to sign up a load of ppl who might otherwise not vote

 

sadmanbarty

Well-known member
https://www.byline.com/column/11/article/1250

"It becomes pointless then to debate this circular magical thinking. Pointless to point to polls predicting total electoral olethros. They are dismissed as either propaganda or the result of the "PLP coup". Pointless to explain the fact that Labour had never actually been ahead on average, throughout his tenure. That we have been sliding in the polls since mid-March, long before any MP resigned. Pointless to say that evidence shows Labour would receive a 12-point boost if he resigned, or that the 10 point deficit between Labour and the Tories, actually increases to 15 points when Corbyn is mentioned by name. Pointless to point out that his approval rating is just as disastrous with those declaring a voting intention as it is with people unlikely to vote - the demographic we are told will flock to the voting booth to save us. Pointless to reiterate data that on key issues the distance between his positions and those of average Britons, whose vote Labour would need, is unbridgeable. Pointless to explain that even Labour voters rate Theresa May more highly than their own leader. Pointless to explain that if Labour managed to win every single Green vote it would put us on 198 seats to the Tories' 328."
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps

subvert47

I don't fight, I run away
Gary Younge said:
Whether Labour can beat [the Tories] under Corbyn remains to be seen. Anyone who predicted four years ago that Britain would be heading out of Europe, Corbyn would be leading Labour, or that the party would have just one MP in Scotland deserves a deferential hearing about how the 2020 general election will play out. Everyone else should approach the current volatility in British electoral politics with more humility.

https://www.theguardian.com/comment...ge-divide-jeremy-corbyn-left-right-principles

too fucking right :mad:
 

vimothy

yurp
Labour may get as little as 20% of the vote at the next general election and win fewer than 150 seats, according to an analysis of the challenges the party faces.

Buffeted by difficulties including plotting a course on Brexit and a continued lack of support in Scotland, as well as Jeremy Corbyn’s unpopularity, Labour has virtually no chance of winning outright in the next election, the Fabian Society report concludes....

Based on analysis of existing poll data and historical trends, the study predicts that the next election, whether held imminently or in 2020, is very likely to see Labour win fewer than 200 seats for the first time since 1935, possibly falling to about 140.

However, it cautions against the idea that Labour could be imminently replaced as the main opposition, saying the electoral system will act as a “firebreak” against a calamitous collapse in the number of seats....

But using projections based on recent polls, it says that even if either Ukip or the Lib Dems could tie with Labour on 20%, the electoral system would mean neither would win more than 20 seats, with Labour remaining at 140 to 150.

Such a scenario would see the Conservatives win more than 400 seats, giving Theresa May a vast Commons majority.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jan/02/labour-election-jeremy-corbyn-fabian-society
 

Leo

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Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
Seen today in a Facebook thread after I pointed out that Labour is trailing the Tories by nearly 20 points in most opinion polls:

"Fuck opinion polls."

VICTORY WILL BE OURS, COMRADES!
 

baboon2004

Darned cockwombles.
Whatever Corbyn's multiple failings, the level of support for/confidence in the Tories is still astonishing at this point.
 

richwill

Member
His outright refusal to countenance an anti-Tory alliance amounts to suicide. I always appreciated his conviction and good sense on platforms in solidatiry with Latin America etc, but as a party leader he is a fucking womble.
 

baboon2004

Darned cockwombles.
It's outrageous that it's Caroline Lucas who is keeping tactical voting/alliance in the headlines rather than Corbyn (on C4 News yesterday she was plain speaking and excellent). On this and the Article 50 debacle he has totally lost my respect.

Clearly at some level (presumably unconscious) he doesn't want to win.
 
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