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    Quote Originally Posted by droid View Post
    Nah, thats more or less OTM. Look at the alliance, Trump, Russia, the Saudis... the three biggest oil producers. Its all about predatory delay. Pump the oil and gas for as long as possible, raking in the profits and preventing the shift to renewables that would bankrupt their economies.
    There's the whole Venezuela thing too. I wouldn't be surprised if what we're seeing now is the culmination of a US-led effort to take control of the Venezuelan oil reserves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IdleRich View Post
    Anyway, what about the National Emergency?
    doesn't really matter if it sticks or not, that's not that point

    or, it matters very much in a longer-term way: rule of law, defining powers of executive branch, checks and balances, etc

    but immediately it's just about having the issue. he/his people don't want any kind of resolution, just an ongoing fight.

    he said it himself "the only reason we're talking about this is because of the election"

    the literal wall itself is so impractical, for so many reasons (geography, eminent domain of private property, etc). as well as ofc the absurd hyperbole of the invented "crisis".

    Pelosi (credit where it's due) stared him down over the shutdown and he blinked first, so now we have this stupid bullshit

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    the executive branch powers, checks and balances stuff is v important, I don't wanna undersell that

    it's not unlike what went on under Bush II, but more grotesque, farcical, etc

    it's just, that damage will be longer-term. this declaration is just the media circus.

    there was a long, amusing bit where he half-heartedly tried to distance himself from the idea that Hannity, Limbaugh, etc are pulling his strings.

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    to explain it procedurally - the President has a good deal of leeway to order governmental departments to do or not do certain things within existing law

    for example, tell ICE to focus on violent offenders and hands off sanctuary cities. or alternatively, to crack down on everyone everywhere.

    but executive orders can be challenged on legal and/or constitutional etc grounds, as happened with the travel ban

    Trump said he's counting on SC to uphold this, as indeed they knuckled under to the travel ban on party lines (and that was before Kavanaugh replaced Kennedy)

    Barr is both an absolute body and soul Trump lackey, and a huge proponent of executive power, so the DOJ will vigorously back this nonsense declaration

    whether any of it actually results in significant new construction is another matter and, again, besides the point

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    we're also seeing what happens when a President can't/won't get competent people to work for him

    a mediocre yes-man at State and AG, literally no one at Defense, a non-entity as interim WH Chief of Staff, on and on

    everything is a fucking mess, unelected evil motherfuckers (Miller) or feckless bag-men (Kushner) whispering in the ear

    I mean, fingers crossed for 2020 the Democrats don't fuck this up (they will; you know it, I know it, they know it)

    tho I still feel worse for yall, since Brexit is forever

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    Quote Originally Posted by version View Post
    BATTLE BROTHER
    needs more battle brother

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Tea View Post
    I wish I could Like this more than once.
    Your inbox is full, so I'll have to respond here. I didn't come up with that Battle Brother thing, it's something which has been floating around online for years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by version View Post
    There's the whole Venezuela thing too. I wouldn't be surprised if what we're seeing now is the culmination of a US-led effort to take control of the Venezuelan oil reserves.
    there is no reason to doubt this. they have literally said this. does anyone still believe they give a fuck about human rights or democracy?

    there's a great book about us imperialism regarding latin america called "open veins of latin america" (1971). here, eduardo galeano writes about pre-bolivarian venezuela:

    VULTURES OVER LAKE MARACAIBO
    Though its participation in the world market has dwindled by half in the past decade, Venezuela is still the top petroleum exporter. Almost half the profits U.S. capitalists take from Latin America come from Venezuela. One of the world's richest countries, it is also one of the poorest and most violent. It boasts of Latin America's highest per-capita income and most complete and up-to- date highway network, and no country consumes as much Scotch whiskey per inhabitant. Immediately exploitable iron, petroleum, and gas reserves in its subsoil could multiple by ten the wealth of every Venezuelan; the population of Germany or England could fit into its enormous virgin lands. In half a century, oil rigs have extracted an income double the resources of the Marshall Plan. Since the first well blew, the population has multiplied by three and the national budget by 100, but most of the people scramble for the plush minority’s leavings, still as poor as the country depended on cacao or coffee. The capital, Caracas, has grown 700 percent in thirty years: the old city of airy patios, central and silent cathedral is covered with skyscrapers as Lake Maracaibo covered with oil wells. Today it is a supersonic, deafening, air-conditioned nightmare, a center of oil culture that might pass as the capital of Texas. Caracas chews gum and loves synthetic products and canned foods; it never walks, and poisons the clear air of the valley with the fumes of its motorization; its fever to buy, consume, obtain, spend, use, get hold of everything leaves it no time to sleep. From surrounding hillside hovels made of garbage, half a million forgotten people observe the sybaritic scene. The gilded city's avenues glitter with hundreds of thousands of late-model cars, but in the consuming society not everyone consumes. According to the census, half of Venezuela's children and youths do not go to school.
    Every day Venezuela produces 3 .5 million barrels of petroleum to move the capitalist world's industrial machinery, but four-fifths of the concessions owned by Standard Oil, Shell, Gulf, and Texaco are untouched reserves and over half the value of the exports never returns to the country. Creole (Standard Oil) publicity brochures point with pride to the corporation's Venezuelan philanthropies much as the Royal Guipuzcoan Company proclaimed its own virtues in the eighteenth century; the profits milked from this wonderful cow, in proportion to capital invested, are only comparable with those obtained by old-time slave merchants and pirates. No country has yielded as much for world capitalism in so short a time: the wealth drained from Venezuela, according to Domingo Alberto Rangel, exceeds what the Spaniards took from Potosí or the English from India. Some estimates put the real profits of Venezuelan oil concerns at 38 percent in 1961 and 48 percent in 1962, although the profit rates announced in their balance sheets were 15 percent and 17 percent respectively. The difference is attributable to the juggling of accounts and to hidden transfers.

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    Salvador Garmendia, the novelist who reinvented the prefabricated hell of this whole conquest culture, the culture of petroleum, wrote to me in the middle of 1969:
    Have you seen the apparatus that extracts crude petroleum? It looks like a big black bird whose sharp-pointed head rises and falls heavily day and night without stopping for a second: it is the only vulture that doesn't eat shit. What do we do when the characteristic sound of the sipper tells us there isn't any more oil? The grotesque overture is already beginning to be heard over Lake Maracaibo, where fabulous communities grew up overnight, with supermarkets, dance halls, a profusion of whorehouses and gambling dens-- money had no value. I recently made a trip through there and felt claws in my stomach. The smell of death and decay overpowers the smell of oil. The towns are semi-deserted, wormeaten, ulcerated, the streets deep in mud, the stores dilapidated. One of the companies' old divers goes down every day with a saw to cut lengths of abandoned pipeline which he sells as old iron. People are beginning to talk about the “companies” as if conjuring up a golden fable. They live like acrobats on a tightrope of myths about the old days, when fortunes were squandered on a turn of the dice or a week-long drinking orgy. Meanwhile, the pumps continue bobbing up and down and the rain of dollars falls on Miraflores, the government palace, to be turned into superhighways and other cement monsters. Seventy percent of the country lives a totally marginal existence. In the cities an unconcerned, well-paid middle class stuffs itself with useless objects and makes a strident cult of imbecility and bad taste. The government recently announced with great fanfare that it had exterminated illiteracy. Sequel: in the recent electoral fiesta registration lists showed a million illiterates between eighteen and fifty years of age.

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    Trump aides ignored legal warnings in pushing reactor plan: Democratic report - https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKCN1Q824N

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Top White House aides ignored repeated warnings they could be breaking the law as they worked with former U.S. officials and a close friend of President Donald Trump to advance a multi-billion-dollar plan to build nuclear reactors in the Middle East, Democratic lawmakers alleged in a report released Tuesday.

    The House of Representatives Oversight Committee report said former national security adviser Michael Flynn and two aides promoted the plan with Tom Barrack, the chairman of Trump’s inaugural committee, and a consortium of U.S. firms led by retired military commanders and former White House officials.

    The effort, the report said, began before Trump took office and continued after his inauguration in January 2017 despite National Security Council staff warnings that a proposed transfer of U.S. nuclear technology to Saudi Arabia was being fast-tracked around a mandatory approval process in possible breach of the Atomic Energy Act.

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    Russia: Arctic oil deal and weakening of NATO.
    Israel: Recognition of Jerusalem and blank cheque for slaughter.
    Suaids: Tacit approval of Qatar, blind eye to Khashoggi and nuclear weapons.

    Quid pro quo.

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    it's along the lines of what's always gone on before: official advice ignored, regulations eased, laws disregarded, blatant private sector money grabs made via public projects, deals with traditional advisories, etc. the difference now is the brazen openness of it. for the most part, they don't even fucking care about hiding it, or even being discreet. trump tweets about half this shit, FFS.
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    tho I still feel worse for yall, since Brexit is forever
    Don't feel bad for me, I'm gone...

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