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    There is a particularly compelling conspiracy story that puts Bush at the head of a crime cartel which assasinates Kennedy and takes power in the aftermath of his death.

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    2nd term is vanishingly unlikely at this point in time due to key demographic collapses in support, but then again, a convenient war could change that.
    Is this true though? I keep reading that with his levels at present and the traditional advantage to the incumbent it's perfectly possible for him to win again from here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IdleRich View Post
    Is this true though? I keep reading that with his levels at present and the traditional advantage to the incumbent it's perfectly possible for him to win again from here.
    As things currently stand, yes. I cant go into the details but he's down across a large swathe of voter types and most damningly amongst particular groups (no-college educated whites) in particular key states.

    Is it possible? Of course, there's a huge amount of variables and its way out, but the big arc is that his support has been denuded back to his hardcore base.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luka View Post
    There is a particularly compelling conspiracy story that puts Bush at the head of a crime cartel which assasinates Kennedy and takes power in the aftermath of his death.
    Huh. You know about Bush seniors strange behaviour around the assassination don't you?

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    As things currently stand, yes. I cant go into the details but he's down across a large swathe of voter types and most damningly amongst particular groups (no-college educated whites) in particular key states.
    Is it possible? Of course, there's a huge amount of variables and its way out, but the big arc is that his support has been denuded back to his hardcore base.
    I hope you're right. Agreed a lot can change though - surely depends on who the Dems put up, if they can find a new Obama then great...

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    A new Obama would be a disaster. They need a left leaning figure that can assuage widespread discontent with actual policies whilst being acceptable enough to liberals.

    Centerism means doom, and not just for the US.

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    I mean a personality that people get excited about. I'm not talking about politics. If they put up a faceless worthy then it's no use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by droid View Post
    That said, I agree that the likelihood of impeachment has greatly diminished. I think a very dangerous political calculation has been made to wait it out. 2nd term is vanishingly unlikely at this point in time due to key demographic collapses in support, but then again, a convenient war could change that.
    I don't think the American public has anything like the appetite for war that it did back in '03. A large measure of Trump's popularity has been due to his relative reticence in this regard compared to his two immediate predecessors (or either of the two before that, in fact). Of course the drone war continues unabated but I'm talking about boots-on-the-ground deployment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Tea View Post
    I don't think the American public has anything like the appetite for war that it did back in '03. A large measure of Trump's popularity has been due to his relative reticence in this regard compared to his two immediate predecessors (or either of the two before that, in fact). Of course the drone war continues unabated but I'm talking about boots-on-the-ground deployment.
    I don't think it would be hard to rally the Republican base in support of another war. They'd just have to bang on about the "evils of socialism" in Venezuela or something, get the message out through FOX and right wing talk radio and have Trump deliver a few fiery speeches and they'd be chomping at the bit for boots on the ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by version View Post
    I don't think it would be hard to rally the Republican base in support of another war. They'd just have to bang on about the "evils of socialism" in Venezuela or something, get the message out through FOX and right wing talk radio and have Trump deliver a few fiery speeches and they'd be chomping at the bit for boots on the ground.
    Don't think Uncle Vlad would like that very much.
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    Haha.

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    I'd say that this McGahn is in a difficult position being subpoenaed by Congress and ordered not to attend by the President. Seems he could face legal trouble either way. Constitution is well and truly not fit for purpose.

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