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    Reports of disturbances in the lobby of the Moscow hotel on the night of the pee tape involving some guests whom Trump wanted to be allowed up to his room without signing the register...

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    Isn't there rumblings of the Apprentice outtakes where Trump is being openly racist getting leaked?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corpsey View Post
    Isn't there rumblings of the Apprentice outtakes where Trump is being openly racist getting leaked?
    would that even matter at this point, though?

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    FZ Yeah. You have to understand that the medium that brings you the message taints the message. It spins the message. In other words, the same factoid presented on CNN, if you took that same piece of data and put it in USA Today, as opposed to the Wall Street Journal or the Journal of The American Medical Association or the Encyclopedia Britannica. Now, if the same factoid was everywhere, which one would you say would reinforce all the rest of them? If the thing is in the Encyclopedia, it looks a little more like a real fact than it does if it's on CNN. CNN is really not a reliable source of news. It's a fountain of disinformation. It is probably the most biased, most spin-encrusted, totally unreliable source of information that you can lay your eyes on, but I watch it all the time because it gives me a great thing to compare other stuff to. And most people don't do that. Most people won't compare. They'll just hear the news report and buy it right away and it's done. It's plugged into their memory bank, and when it's time to process information, that's the erroneous fact that they're operating on. Like people who have absorbed the latest polls, when it's time to figure out what they're going to do about the election, they're saturated with polls to tell them that all is lost.
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    Deeply chilling


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    Quote Originally Posted by droid View Post
    Deeply chilling

    of course, the majority of voters (as well as probably many trump voters) knew this is exactly who he was all along, no surprises here. say what you will about hillary, but she and the dems spent the whole summer talking about how he was unfit for office, didn't have the temperament or intelligence, etc.

    i feel the same way about these poor republicans as i do about the men of hollywood in regards to weinstein (as noted on another thread): fuck you, where were you back when something could have been done to prevent all of this? he's president because these sellouts put their own self interest first and ignored every warning sign that has eventually come true. i have very little sympathy for their current predicament.
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    Of course, and they're still doing it now even when the recognise there is a real possibility of planetary destruction. Utter scum. As Chomsky says, the most dangerous organisation in human History.

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    I think Trump's fate is now more than ever in the hands of Bannon - "his" candidate Roy Moore (a political desperado and nutjob even for the US southern states standards) defeated Trump's candidate Luther Strange (great villain-esque name btw) recently in Alabama. And what's up with the Mercer Family financing Breitbart?

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    george w. bush, of all people...

    "We've seen nationalism distorted into nativism, forgotten the dynamism that immigration has always brought to America ... We see a fading confidence in the value of free markets and international trade, forgetting that conflict, instability and poverty follow in the wake of protectionism. We've seen the return of isolationist sentiments, forgetting that American security is directly threatened by the chaos and despair of distant places."

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    Quote Originally Posted by firefinga View Post
    I think Trump's fate is now more than ever in the hands of Bannon - "his" candidate Roy Moore (a political desperado and nutjob even for the US southern states standards) defeated Trump's candidate Luther Strange (great villain-esque name btw) recently in Alabama. And what's up with the Mercer Family financing Breitbart?
    Looks as if Bannon is stepping up his game and is working to establish an even more right wing branch of the Republicans which is supposed to wreak havoc in the 2018 election circle.

    Trump mihgt have paved the way for a full-on fascist presidency in 2020, possibly by Bannon himself.

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    i think or maybe just hope bannons too thick too sloppy too crude to be a permanant fixture on the political scene.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luka View Post
    i think or maybe just hope bannons too thick too sloppy too crude to be a permanant fixture on the political scene.
    I don't think he is thick, plus he got financial backing by the Mercer familiy (note: firefinga in conspiracy theory shocker). He might be too crude though to really pull decisive majorities. However, I suspect Bannon will be a destructive force for some while.

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    firefinga, i think it's the opposite, actually. trump half-heartedly supported luther strange in alabama, he's got no loyalty to the establishment republican party and still has a lot more in common with bannon. he and bannon still talk on the phone, and bannon's frequently stated goal is to blow up the GOP and rid the party of establishment types who in his mind have prevented trump from achieving the agenda that the america people elected him to do.

    the difference between bannon and trump is bannon has a lifelong political belief system and agenda, while trump has no political beliefs (he was a democrat until a couple of years ago, donated to democratic pols, etc.). he just wants attention and power, couldn't care less about most policy.

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