Leo

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george w. bush, of all people...

"We've seen nationalism distorted into nativism, forgotten the dynamism that immigration has always brought to America ... We see a fading confidence in the value of free markets and international trade, forgetting that conflict, instability and poverty follow in the wake of protectionism. We've seen the return of isolationist sentiments, forgetting that American security is directly threatened by the chaos and despair of distant places."
 

firefinga

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I think Trump's fate is now more than ever in the hands of Bannon - "his" candidate Roy Moore (a political desperado and nutjob even for the US southern states standards) defeated Trump's candidate Luther Strange (great villain-esque name btw) recently in Alabama. And what's up with the Mercer Family financing Breitbart?

Looks as if Bannon is stepping up his game and is working to establish an even more right wing branch of the Republicans which is supposed to wreak havoc in the 2018 election circle.

Trump mihgt have paved the way for a full-on fascist presidency in 2020, possibly by Bannon himself.
 

luka

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i think or maybe just hope bannons too thick too sloppy too crude to be a permanant fixture on the political scene.
 

firefinga

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i think or maybe just hope bannons too thick too sloppy too crude to be a permanant fixture on the political scene.

I don't think he is thick, plus he got financial backing by the Mercer familiy (note: firefinga in conspiracy theory shocker). He might be too crude though to really pull decisive majorities. However, I suspect Bannon will be a destructive force for some while. :eek:
 

Leo

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firefinga, i think it's the opposite, actually. trump half-heartedly supported luther strange in alabama, he's got no loyalty to the establishment republican party and still has a lot more in common with bannon. he and bannon still talk on the phone, and bannon's frequently stated goal is to blow up the GOP and rid the party of establishment types who in his mind have prevented trump from achieving the agenda that the america people elected him to do.

the difference between bannon and trump is bannon has a lifelong political belief system and agenda, while trump has no political beliefs (he was a democrat until a couple of years ago, donated to democratic pols, etc.). he just wants attention and power, couldn't care less about most policy.
 

Leo

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...along with his protege rick gates: money laundering, tax fraud, foreign lobby violations, preceded yesterday by a top-tier trump twitter freakout. perhaps it won't reach him. or perhaps...

i love a good game of dominos.

EDIT: update on MAGA...men are getting arrested.
 
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luka

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im pretty much resigned to the fact that there is no dirt on trump. that there was no meaningful collusion with russia (least of all hacking the election) and we'll have to rely on his own political miscalculation or an internal coup to topple him.
 

droid

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There may not be a silver bullet, but the investigation could bring down everyone close to him and force him out. Meaningful collusion is a plausible.

Regardless, it doesnt really matter unless the dems retake the houses. They will take the Alabama seat in December and are currently running at 46.8% for congress and in the high 50's in the generic ballot. Its a real possibility.
 

luka

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well thats what i like about you droid. youre an optimist. like when you said the news of the world hacking scandal would bring down the government.
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
droid is 'optimistic' in the specialist sense that he sees global mass depopulation within our lifetimes as both inevitable and a good thing.
 

Leo

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in less that a year, the trump team's story has evolved from "we were never in contact with any russians" to "we went to some meeting about russian adoptions" to "we never colluded with the russians" to "russians meddling didn't impact the election results."

at this rate, i say we see video of trump cheering on russian hookers as they pee on each other by easter break.
 

droid

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A lesbian just took a Republican state senate seat from a Republican in Oklahoma. A state that Trump won by 40 points.
 
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