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[Benny B]

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There's a reaction on the part of (mostly) white, straight, males to the steadily increasing rights accorded to women, gays (queers? don't know the correct term), ethnic minorities, etc. in the West, and to the 'political correctness' accompanying this shift.



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It's against women in general, particularly feminists of the more radical variety who regularly receive violent threats. You should see some of the hate dished out against them on twitter from 'liberal feminists' and transgender activists - pure misogynist hatred at its worst.

[Mr. Tea]

It's against women in general, particularly feminists of the more radical variety who regularly receive violent threats. You should see some of the hate dished out against them on twitter from 'liberal feminists' and transgender activists - pure misogynist hatred at its worst.

In fairness it's not as if there are no radfems with crazy or repugnant views of their own - such as insisting that all trans-women are "attention-seekers" or "men pretending to be women" and should therefore be excluded from feminist discourse.

[droid]

Thats just Germaine Greer.

[Benny B]

In fairness it's not as if there are no radfems with crazy or repugnant views of their own - such as insisting that all trans-women are "attention-seekers" or "men pretending to be women" and should therefore be excluded from feminist discourse.

Tea you don't have a clue what you're talking about. Radfems do not hate trans people, they disagree with them over gender issues and receive torrents of violent misogynist threats as a result in place of actual coherent arguments.

[Benny B]

Thats just Germaine Greer.

Greer disagrees that trans women are real women. She doesn't hate them.
I don't always agree with everything she says but she isn't crazy.

[Benny B]

Not buying into liberal, individualist identity politics does not mean you are crazy, repugnant or hate trans people

[baboon2004]

gays (queers? don't know the correct term)

This is interesting in the context of Yiannopoulus - he's gay but most definitely not queer. A middle-upper class white man who's desperately telling the most difference-phobic privileged white heterosexual men he can find that he's just like them except for one aspect of his being. Desperately seeking approval from those who would hate him if he wasn't constantly reaffirming that their other prejudices are correct. Hateful.

[Mr. Tea]

Thats just Germaine Greer.

Yeah but it's not though, is it.

[luka]

http://vigilantcitizen.com/latestnews/camille-paglia/

Camille Paglia: “Transgender Mania is a Symptom of Cultural Collapse” (video)

[baboon2004]

Not buying into liberal, individualist identity politics does not mean you are crazy, repugnant or hate trans people

i'd agree with that. funny to me that mtf anf ftm transitions so often seem to be treated as if they can be talked about together, without any consideration of the differences between them. Whereas power realities dictate that they're not the same thing at all.

[luka]

I agree with her entirely, well except for the bit where she talks about the danger of inflaming the opponents of Western culture and the spengler decline and fall stuff anyway. Lots of stable traditional cultures have a third sex, men dressed as women. It's very common.

[vimothy]

Paglia has descended into much the same reactionary cesspit as Zizek.

[Mr. Tea]

i'd agree with that. funny to me that mtf anf ftm transitions so often seem to be treated as if they can be talked about together, without any consideration of the differences between them. Whereas power realities dictate that they're not the same thing at all.

Also, how many trans-men actually are there? I know they exist, of course, but they seem to be greatly outnumbered by trans-women.

[luka]

Paglia has descended into much the same reactionary cesspit as Zizek.

I thought you liked reactionary cesspits? I need one of those idiots guides to the thought of vimothy

[vimothy]

Only joking - I love reactionary cesspits!