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Thread: Choon of the Day

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    There's still something otherworldly about this stuff, like a deep space transmission or something rattling around inside a derelict space cruiser. The aural equivalent of Alien. No humanity. Just space, machines and darkness.
    I like this description, it's a probably a sound or an aesthetic that a lot of people go for. Here's another one that gives me that kinda feeling, albeit from a different direction - and with the melody arguably there is more humanity present which ought to undercut it but, I dunno, it gives it a kind of epic blank quality that works for me. Anyone know what it's from originally by the way, I think that this a re-edit of something older?

    Last edited by IdleRich; 20-10-2019 at 05:34 PM.

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    Actually don't worry about that I found the info on discogs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corpsey View Post
    Prior ages had the Petrarchan sonnet.

    We have the Kaytrarchan Songet.

    She shimmers like a California sunset
    Lady lady, glitters but there's no gold
    She carries sweetly infectious magic formulas
    I'm so delirious, is she that serious?
    Or is she bringing me on, I've been waiting so long

    Notice that in the chorus, Jay Kay ceases to make much sense at all:

    When this love, foolosophy is killing
    Previous illusions that (I'm a love fool)
    I had in my mind about you (I'm a love fool)
    Seems so true, all the lies you're telling
    Tragically compelling and (I'm a love fool)
    My love, it means nothing to you
    So maybe I'm still a love fool

    Ignoramuses might think they spot a weak lyric here. But the title of the song leads us back to Plato - and to the concept of Divine ("platonic love") love emerging from Vulgar love ("shimmers like a california sunset")...

    Pausanias, in Plato's Symposium (181b–182a), explained two types of love or Eros—Vulgar Eros or earthly love and Divine Eros or divine love. Vulgar Eros is nothing but mere material attraction towards a beautiful body for physical pleasure and reproduction. Divine Eros begins the journey from physical attraction, i.e. attraction towards beautiful form or body but transcends gradually to love for Supreme Beauty. This concept of Divine Eros is later transformed into the term platonic love. Vulgar Eros and Divine Eros are both connected and part of the same continuous process of pursuing totality of being itself,[4] with the purpose of mending human nature, eventually reaching a point of unity where there is no longer an aspiration to change.[5]

    "Eros is [...] a moment of transcendence [...] in so far as the other can never be possessed without being annihilated in its status as the other, at which point both desire and transcendence would cease [...] (84) [5]

    It's obvious that at the musically 'heightened' moment of the chorus, Jay Kay's love is also being heightened towards a self-annihilating, logic-less obLOVEian.

    And people say LEONARD COHEN is a poet
    underrated post. the plato quotations are even properly cited.

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