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    I think the key people to answer that would be in the big leave voting constituencies surely? I've seen stories that there's polling stating a credible amount have changed their mind but nothing definitive yet. Anyone know? Corbyn's office said last week that "private polling" (i.e. presumably polling that is going to remain invisible to the public) had found the opposite, quelle surprise. As Rich says, What. A. Mess.

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    How much trouble would there really be if Brexit was abandoned? Not a lot, probably fewer heads cracked than there were for either foxhunting or tuition fees. Deep down, who really gives a fuck? An economic rebound would soon settle things down.
    Almost none I reckon. A few angry letters from some disappointed racists I guess.
    Cancelling Brexit is a) the easiest thing to do now b) the best thing to do in terms of the economy and the country's overall prosperity and c) probably the most popular thing to do. Which makes it kinda frustrating that a lame duck leader is desperate to do anything except that.

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    Because it would also mean self-destruction of the Conservative Party and collapse of their vote. A lot of winning for everyone else.

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    I'm being a little dismissive there. The pro-brexit march yesterday attracted about 3,000 in comparison to the 700,000 who marched against it a few weeks ago... but that is presumably because all the middle class little Englanders from the home counties don't want to actually be physically associated with Tommy Robinson and all the working class racist thugs who marched with him and whose politics they share.
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    Because it would also mean self-destruction of the Conservative Party and collapse of their vote. A lot of winning for everyone else.
    But Labour seem to have been basing their strategy on Conservatives delivering some kind of Brexit and it being so shit that they get voted out forever. In other words it's quite possibly that they are equally fucked either way. I certainly hope so.

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    Angry Tory rebels and Labour MPs vowed that they would attempt to force the government to hold a vote.
    However, a government source says there would be no vote on a business motion to cancel Tuesday’s vote. “We are replacing the business with a new statement but it isn’t a motion and therefore isn’t voteable,”
    Well that clears that up. Apologies for the confusion, I should have known that. Obviously.

    Children’s minister Nadhim Zahawi said on Twitter that the prime minister had “listened to colleagues” and would now “head to Brussels to push back on the backstop.”
    Equally she hasn't been listening to Brussels who have categorically said several times that there is going to be no renegotiation. They should just completely refuse to meet her, that would be fucking funny.

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    I love all the headlines about EU diplomats being 'bewildered' by Theresa May suggesting new negotiations. They should arrange to meet her in a coffee shop or something.

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    OK, now we're getting to the point in the evening where someone has ordered shots (half an hour til midnight?). Boris Johnson - or someone even worse - to be Prime Minister next week, then. Christ.

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    Public image shorn of artifice. Britain can finally take its rightful place as global laughing stock, it's already stained patina of respectability shredded beyond hope of repair. The glorious humiliation of it all.

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    How dare you openly ridicule my country!

    OK, so the leadership contest would take up to six weeks. What the actual fuck.

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    Trump, Putin and now maybe Boris Johnson. Add to that Salvini as the actual strongman of the Italian government and half of the G8, if it were still in place, ends up in the hands of these muppets.

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    I can actually see why the Tories are pissed off, with swearing blind that the vote would go ahead and making her drones go out and say that right up to (in some cases after in fact) the moment it was cancelled May treated parliament and country with contempt and made her supposed allies look like utter clowns.
    Basically she treated everyone high-handedly and gambled that the situation was too fraught to waste time on a vote of no confidence (which it is)... blown up in her face. Fuck me.

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    Behind me in the supermarket queue just now, a woman was aptly buying a one litre bottle of Captain Morgan and a copy of TV Choice. BLOCK IT ALL OUT.

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    I don't think that they have enough votes to topple the Maybot so it should be back to business as unusual tomorrow. I do think that by delaying the vote she has scuppered the chances of another referendum somewhat. Presumably she hopes to delay things so that there is no time to do anything but accept her deal or just settle for no deal. If her deal was rejected now then it would be No Deal or find a new solution and that could only be a second referendum. Maybe that's off the table now.

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    As far as I have understood, there will be a Brexit in March 2019 in any event, right?

    If they topple May, then it'S gonna be a hard Brexit.

    If they fail, it's gonna be the deal that's on the table.


    May is a "dead woman walking" in any event. However, didn't Major survive votes of confidence against him as well?

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