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Wild Horses

This should worry the Government. 1.7 million under-35s registered to vote in the last 6 months.

Statistically, only 28% of them will even *consider* voting Conservative and just 16% will vote Tory. 60% will vote Labour.

That's a million Labour voters.

Nothing new I guess, but Labour getting the vote out is crucial.

I expect a lot of crazy promises from all sides in this campaign. Noone will be talking about magic money trees.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
That too... just seen this quote from a few years back

In a 2013 interview, Boris Johnson was asked whether he and his brother could ever fall out in the same way as the Miliband brothers.
He said: 'Absolutely not. We don't do things that way, that's a very left-wing thing ... only a socialist could regard familial ties as being so trivial as to shaft his own brother.'
But I need help, I think I'm addicted to the news, I'm reading the Daily Mail's comment page obsessively now. This is the most incisive comment I've seen (from Schmeagol in Pyongyang apparently).

Pritty Patel will feel the full force of the laws p e n I s
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
How recently, do you think, has any British person ever actually referred to a penis as a "Johnson"?

Maybe this'll lead to a revival of the term.
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
Yeah it sounds more American to me, I dunno.

You never hear Americans say "(k)nob", do you? That's some very specifically British slang there. Although I'm never quite sure if it has a 'k' or not.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
Johnson answering questions right now, every single one them begins "If your own brother thinks you're a total cunt..."
Then one question says that Labour are saying that they can't trust the Tories to hold an election on the date they promise and BJ looks surprised, aggrieved etc as if he hasn't been caught lying so many times about so many things.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
Terrible terrible speech though - he's trying to launch an election campaign but he turned up more than an hour late and looked as though he hadn't written down what to say

Johnson asks police what the police caution is.
None of them read it out to him, so he tries to recite it himself. You do not have to say anything, but anything you do say may be taken down as evidence and used in evidence against you.
(Except Johnson does not say it coherently. He stumbles, and gives up half way through. Is he expecting someone to help him out? It is not clear, but it looks as though he has given no thought at all to what he wants to say.)
On Sky one pundit called it "extraordinary" and the other said he can see no choice but for Johnson to resign on Monday or at the latest by 17th October.
 

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John Johnston
@johnjohnstonmi

Totally reassuring exchange in DExEU committee just now.

Benn: "No one, including yourself, can know what is going to happen after 1st November?"

Gove: "Um....Er.......The future is known only to the Almighty."

Benn: "Well, he is not a witness before the committee today."
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
Have you seen that JRM used parliamentary privilege to slander that doctor he argued with on the radio the other day - really disgraceful, he compared him (twice) to Andrew Wakefied. Even number 10 thought it was too much ("The prime minister does not share this view")... has Mogg gone rogue?
 

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It suggests he's either personally rattled by him or that he had a good point so he has to repeatedly discredit him.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
It suggests he's either personally rattled by him or that he had a good point so he has to repeatedly discredit him.
It's vindictive, spiteful etc but I think it's not gonna play well with doctors and others too. Combine that with him lounging around when the vote was lost and I get the feeling he's just lashing out angrily and unwisely.
 

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Wild Horses
JRM is the latest in a line of Brexiteers to find out that it's easy to bray from the sidelines, quite another to actually try to realise one's fantasies in reality.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
Amber Rudd's just resigned and surrendered the whip.
I wonder how much difference all these resignations make, I guess they are symbolic and chip away at BJ's authority, but beyond that, when the next election comes (and it is coming) their seats will likely go back to Tory won't they?
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
At the moment I want to see what Johnson is going to do. As I see it, he's painted himself into a corner by doubling-down on this "I will not ask for an extension" bollocks. As I see it, he has the following choices...

1. Break the law (and risk sanctions up to actual jail time)
2. Break his one and only promise that he has repeated again and again and which his entire credibility rests on
3. Resign
4. Something else, something sneaky and barely legal or constitutional that will cause massive protests but might just get him off the hook.

The question is, does he have a number four? And if not, why the fuck would he keep repeating his unkeepable promise. Cos I'd say if he doesn't have some kind of special plan then he is in real serious trouble. And it's all his own fault, he should have just accepted the extension, then had an election and won it, but I'm actually not sure he'll be here to take us out of the EU even if we do finally leave.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
They are not really reporting it on the Guardian but it looks like the other papers are saying that Johnson WILL refuse to ask for an extension (as far as I can tell before I reach the paywall). I'd like to read about this in depth, does he think he can get away with that (and, if so, why?) or is it just bluster?
 
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