rubberdingyrapids
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well, yes, her too, excellent detective work.
this was a vote from the *white* working classes (majority of BME voters, most of whom are still working class, did not vote the same, not cos they love how things are, or its any better, but because to vote leave would be tantamount to a vote for UKIP, if not in name, than in ideology) to the rest of the country. nothing to do with the EU. and i dont really blame them.
I can agree with all of that (the working class has certainly been painted as monolithic this week across the media, as though non-white working class people were just an illusion), except the last part. This was a protest vote that will only end up hurt working class communities, and which shows a tacit acceptance of racist right-wing ideologies. I think that is something for which people absolutely can and should be held responsible, especially as there are obviously many, many white working class people who didn't vote to screw their own communities yet further, or to bolster racism and xenophobia.
Which is not to say that I don't understand the protest vote, because it's obviously understandable. It's just self-defeating and catering to fascism.
It's just self-defeating
Can you explain exactly what you mean by 'bourgeois fantasist' here - I'm interested, as just throwing around vague insults that sound nice is no use to anyone. Especially at the moment.
Can you explain exactly what you mean by 'bourgeois fantasist' here - I'm interested
he's a very principled chap but, as is clearly in evidence, he and his party are not in touch with what should be their electorate. the british labour party was always more about methodism than marxism - and corbyn's socialist fantasies are (in the words of andy burnham) more to do with with hampstead than hull.
lol. Yeah, thats clearly the most dangerous divide, not the divide between multicultural minorities and racist neo-fascist murdering thugs
(and even *if* they get that confused with rest of the world immigration).