Nice and ongoing terror attacks in W Europe

You should read The Mind of Jihad by Laurent Murawiec, Firefinga

craner said:

You should read The Mind of Jihad by Laurent Murawiec, Firefinga

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Why does this not suprise me?

"The second problem is that, in my opinion, the book is racist - or at least as close to racism as you can get in writing without breaking the law."

https://www.timeshighereducation.com/books/the-mind-of-jihad/406908.article

The book is not racist.

firefinga said:

Of course you can say they are nihilists, and there's no strategy behind it all. I just don't think it's all that random.

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this @ 2h38m20s explains it pretty clearly imo.

The same guy: Nasar's best known work is the 1600-page book The Global Islamic Resistance Call (Da'wat al-muqawamah al-islamiyyah al-'alamiyyah) which appeared on the Internet in December 2004 or January 2005.[5][9] In an article in the September, 2006 edition of New Yorker magazine, author Lawrence Wright wrote that in this book, Nasar:

'proposes that the next stage of jihad will be characterized by terrorism created by individuals or small autonomous groups (what he terms 'leaderless resistance') which will wear down the enemy and prepare the ground for the far more ambitious aim of waging war on 'open fronts' ... 'without confrontation in the field and seizing control of the land, we cannot establish a state, which is the strategic goal of the resistance.'[7]

It’s known that Flynn travels on the far edge of the conspiratorial extreme of neoconservative thinking, having recently written a book called “The Field of Flight” with Michael Ledeen, a longtime proponent of the idea that the U.S. faces an existential threat from . . . well, pretty much everyone. (Ledeen famously speculated that even Germany and France were in cahoots with al-Qaida when they failed to back the U.S. invasion of Iraq.)
Flynn and Ledeen are heavily influenced by the late Laurent Murawiec, a French-American neocon ideologue who wrote a book they hail as a “masterpiece” called “The Mind of Jihad.” Murawiec apparently found a web of connections between radical Islamism, Bolshevism and and the Nazis that Ledeen and Flynn find convincing. Among other things, Murawiec was associated for many years with Lyndon LaRouche, one of the fringiest political figures in American life.

Ledeen was not heavily influenced by Murawiec. That's simply false.

It says it right there in black and white

Wait till droid gets here hes gunna lap this up anyway Im going off liscence now fuck em i aint lying down for shariah law

Murawiec served in the French army, advised the French Ministry of Defense, taught history and economics, and served as an economic correspondent for the Executive Intelligence Review, a magazine founded by the controversial conspiracy theorist Lyndon LaRouche. He moved to Washington in 1999 to work for the Rand Corporation and subsequently joined the Committee on the Present Danger and became a senior fellow at the neoconservative Hudson Institute, where he penned numerous books and articles advocating aggressive U.S. military policies in the Middle East in the wake of the 9/11 attack

https://pjmedia.com/michaelledeen/2015/11/3/the-mufti-loved-stalin-too/

Heres where leeden called mind of Jihad 'a masterpiece '

In July 2002, Murawiec gave a presentation regarding Middle East policy for the USA before the Defence Policy Board Advisory Committee. His paper was entitled «Expel Saudis from Arabia», a lecture divided into three parts with the projection of 24 slides.[7] Murawiec argued that "In the Arab world, violence is not a continuation of politics by other means – violence is politics, politics is violence"[8] and calling for an "ultimatum to the House of Saud",[8] ultimately summarising the "Grand strategy for the Middle East" as "Iraq is the tactical pivot, Saudi Arabia the strategic pivot, Egypt the prize".[8]

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"According to information that reached a former top official in the Israeli security services, the researchers showed two slides to the Pentagon officials. The first was a depiction of the three goals in the war on terror and the democratization of the Middle East: Iraq - a tactical goal, Saudi Arabia - a strategic goal, and Egypt - the great prize.

"The triangle in the next slide was no less interesting: Palestine is Israel, Jordan is Palestine, and Iraq is the Hashemite Kingdom."

"That is, ethnically cleanse the Palestinians to Jordan, and give Iraq to the Jordanian royal family. Perle, Douglas Feith and David Wurmser spelled much of this out in their Securing the Realm paper."

Here's where Ledeen describes him as going a bit too far and offers constructive criticism, but otherwise correctly praises the book:

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/amp.nationalreview.com/article/226317/know-thy-enemy-michael-ledeen

I wrote a blog post about that presentation on ATFF. He got stuck into the House of Saud. Kissinger hated it.

It's really worth looking into the people who shaped craners thinking. Never less than eyebrow raising

I can provide an extensive reading list, if necessary.

craner said:

I can provide an extensive reading list, if necessary.

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reading is precisely where youve gone wrong

luka said:

reading is precisely where youve gone wrong

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Heh.

On political influence via terror. I think tea is right in that specifically targeted political actions are mostly a thing of the past. Bin Laden was an exception rather than the rule in that he had an expansive historical vision and a masterful reading of US military and political behaviour. There is the simple equation of terror = destabilisation and/or calculated attempts to foster right wing elements of western societies and break down democratic norms, but if those are still serious aims then they are now being expressed in the crudest possible terms - if at all.

Last nights awful attacks may well simply have been inspired by Manchester - or just as likely by the police crackdown afterwards. I think the idea of a centrally masterminded - or even a partially directed campaign are fairly fanciful. Other than the cell coordinated from Brussels, or the MI6 sanctioned Libyan Manchester bomber, the sophistication of recent attacks is so basic that it points to complete breakdown of any command structure that may have existed. The problem now is that the sources of political rage (484 civilians killed in Mosul, with UN war crimes investigations on the way to give but one recent example) are, if anything, intensifying whilst the known networks are breaking down, which obviously affects the efficacy of traditional intelligence and policing methods.

The only surprise regarding Craner's influences is that he still clings to them so fiercely, no matter how far they travel from disgrace to farce.

droid said:

I think tea is right

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Can I get this like embroidered or carved into a big slab of granite or something?