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    Default Immersion Criticism/Syncromysticism/Schizoanalysis

    first came across this here
    http://www.thewire.co.uk/in-writing/...epter_s-portal
    there's a article for dummies here
    http://grantland.com/features/documentary-year/
    where ive stolen the phrase 'immersion criticism' from.
    i dont read d&g or know what they mean by schizoanalysis but im stealing it for this because it appeals to the schizoid and the full blown schizophrenic or mimics the schizophrenics mode of thinking.
    The best blog I know for it is here
    http://groupnameforgrapejuice.blogsp...hild-me-3.html
    and there's also
    http://www.collativelearning.com/the%20shining.html
    mentioned in the wire piece.

    There's precursors to it in Hugh Kenner, a writer Craner introduced to me, and in his teacher, Marshall Mcluhan, and, to a lesser degree, his acolyte, Guy Davenport.
    You can see it in Pound's reading of the troubadours and Robert Anton Wilson's reading of James Joyce.
    It's cousin to the way my friend Mark didn't just play Skyrim
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_El...olls_V:_Skyrim
    he invented characters, built back stories and motivations and played the game in character, performing no action his character would blanch at, even once building a vegetarian character!

    You can see it in a lurid, monomanical (and probably cyncial form) in my favourite film review website here
    http://vigilantcitizen.com/moviesand...-mind-control/

    it's my favourite thing and it makes conventional criticism look grey, incurious and one dimensional.

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    I want to learn how to do it but Im not a natural.

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    you can 'read' geopolitics in this way too, to great effect

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    And the parallels with psychoanalysis are plain.

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    i've only read snatches of the articles you linked to, but seems this is all somewhere between conspiracy theory and the (long overdue) acknowledgement that both the artist's subconscious and the viewer's subconscious are invoked in any reading of a piece of art. Art is just a catalyst for exploration.

    Re geopolitics - you mean overturning the idea that geopolitical decisions are taken exclusively on a rational basis (which is still an almost ubiquitous idea)?

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    naval-gazing privileged folk with too much time on their hands, go take a walk outside goddamnit!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leo View Post
    naval-gazing privileged folk with too much time on their hands, go take a walk outside goddamnit!
    Well perhaps, but of all the potential responses to those essays that's undoubtedly the least interesting, the least productive and the least smart.

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    Re geopolitics - you mean overturning the idea that geopolitical decisions are taken exclusively on a rational basis (which is still an almost ubiquitous idea)?
    Could be, but not exclusively.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luka View Post
    Well perhaps, but of all the potential responses to those essays that's undoubtedly the least interesting, the least productive and the least smart.
    i guess i'll need to include a row of smiley faces at the end next time.

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    Oops sorry were you joking? That's most people's straightfaced response so assumed you were serious

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    Quote Originally Posted by luka View Post
    Oops sorry were you joking? That's most people's straightfaced response so assumed you were serious
    This will go down in history as The Day Luke Got Trolled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by luka View Post
    Oops sorry were you joking? That's most people's straightfaced response so assumed you were serious
    no worries, all good.

    be nice, tea.

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    Just, er, crossed wires...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leo View Post
    no worries, all good.

    be nice, tea.
    Me? I'm always nice! Ask anyone!

    Quote Originally Posted by luka View Post
    Just, er, crossed wires...
    Haha, YESSSS.
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