It's great when you're straight

Benny Bunter

Well-known member
" if all this attention is on the latest Weinstein, Spacey, *insert celebrity sex predator here scandal, ie: that men are the root of all society's ills, when right under their noses thousands of preventable male deaths are occurring week week out, then the subject is never going to attain the degree of analysis it deserves to reverse problem."

Quite simply one of the worst opinions ive ever read on dissensus, ever. Blaming focus on a global movement of women speaking out about endemic sexual abuse for men committing suicide.
:eek:
 

sadmanbarty

Well-known member
yeah ultimately the thread was just for me to boast about how much weight ive lost and act all self-righteous but never mind

i can confirm that you do indeed have the physique of a bloke that girls from art school fancy.

cwabrn, you've been through enough. go post betty davis eyes on choon of the day. skim through the meme thread. add some insights on the counting crows one. reassure corpsey about his poetry comprehension. have you got an opinion about dominic datwun you could tag on the deep tech thread?
 

baboon2004

Darned cockwombles.
rebuffed not for the sake of continuing an argument, more the critical lack of awareness in your own approach in explaining patriarchal roles as one of the main causes of male suicide.... its not rocket science but it is indicative of someone who doesnt have a survivors view of the problem.

by pinpointing why, how & where your position lacked insight, empathy & a fuller understanding of the problem, i'm accused of derailing the thread.

so be it.

its the default option of immature minds to accuse someone of derailing a subject because you dont agree with their criticism of the weaknesses in your own understanding of the subject....a "debate" can not develop if individuals fail to see or engage with the flaws in their own ideological scaffolding.

'Derailing the thread' didn't relate to you at all, for what it's worth. I was talking about the deviation from Luka's original post.

You're making yourself look petty by resorting to completely unsubstantiated ad hominem criticisms of someone you don't know. I don't know whether to be annoyed or bemused. Particularly accusing someone whose father died in a mental health ward last year after being sectioned, of 'lacking empathy and a fuller understanding of the problem' - no it wasn't suicide, but believe me the issues of constant attacks on the self and wanting to die were/are very similar. To use your own phrasing, it's not rocket science to understand that other people have lived experience too.

I just read that comment that Benny picked out - pretty much confirms my original criticism. "You managed to take one observation & run with it to another level by taking it completely out of context" - seems not, and that you actually are invested in a narrative about how oppressed men are. Maturity consists - among other things - in being able to recognise other forms of oppression that do not relate directly to you, and respecting that tackling these is not a danger to your own concerns. Elsewhere in your posts though you do allude to the issues that women face (seemingly tacitly agreeing with all I've said about the socialisation of gender being an important factor in mental health), so I think it's just joining the dots.
 
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baboon2004

Darned cockwombles.
thanks mate, appreciate it. i don't really want to make this about validity of personal experience, but sometimes i guess it's best to share where you're coming from
 

cwmbran-city

Well-known member
" if all this attention is on the latest Weinstein, Spacey, *insert celebrity sex predator here scandal, ie: that men are the root of all society's ills, when right under their noses thousands of preventable male deaths are occurring week week out, then the subject is never going to attain the degree of analysis it deserves to reverse problem."

Quite simply one of the worst opinions ive ever read on dissensus, ever. Blaming focus on a global movement of women speaking out about endemic sexual abuse for men committing suicide.
:eek:

cool, yet again some supreme worshipful master of the internet fails to grasp their own confirmation bias, so i take some pride from that Dr Benny of the Anti-Patriarchy Pioneers

overall your inability to grasp the point is on you yoof, the complaint was focused on reporters who wont go anywhere near the issue of male suicide when people are dying

thats not invalidating sexual predators or the damage they do, but my humble opinion is that the Guardian & many of its readers would rather hashtag an issue than actually resolve it....typical of today's McDonalds-esque focus & Socialist-Worker-Lite world-views

Dr Benny, King of Dissensus, bequeath lesser intellects the right to articulate their poorly understood life experiences......

i can confirm that you do indeed have the physique of a bloke that girls from art school fancy.

cwabrn, you've been through enough. go post betty davis eyes on choon of the day. skim through the meme thread. add some insights on the counting crows one. reassure corpsey about his poetry comprehension. have you got an opinion about dominic datwun you could tag on the deep tech thread?


how mature, keyboard warrior, whatever age-landmark you may have reached, your ability to shoot lowest common denominator "jog on, son" speaks volumes

your parents must be very proud

5mins in a locked room together wouldnt leave you with much else to say, do or think, if that appeals to you?

come & have a coffee & a chat some time, i'll pay for your transport, cos i'm polite like that

agreeable?

maybe you could recommend some tunes? actually probably better that you dont:

What they all have in common - and it's almost a generic global-ghetto-beatz gloss that covers the surface of all music now - is the crinkled sheen of grievously over-done AutoTune. Standardized bizniz seen. AutoTune and similar devices / apps (e.g Melodyne) have established global dominion, audio hegemony. They're inescapable, and seemingly even more so in the non-West such as Middle East and North Africa.

Found it a bit wearing on the dancehall to be honest (even though there's quite extreme and inventive things being done here and there by the singers who doubtless record in the studio with AutoTune in their headphones affecting their vocals in real-time, so they work out how to push the effect). Similarly with the Chicago bop (liked the MBE stuff marginally more than Sicko Mob for some reason).

Partly the finding-it-wearing has to do with how rhythmically I can't hear anything really new going on in the dancehall - just that bashment big-beat style, often with a kind of digital smear to the drums. Perhaps that's the overall maxed-out sound quality. The end result is that everything in the tracks feels like it's made out of the same denatured stuff, it's like there's this flat plane of hypergloss. The tracks are so toppy that they feel imbalanced (one wonders how they sound in the dance).


were you listening to this crap on laptop speakers or summat....inquiring minds would love to know


'Derailing the thread' didn't relate to you at all, for what it's worth. I was talking about the deviation from Luka's original post.

You're making yourself look petty by resorting to completely unsubstantiated ad hominem criticisms of someone you don't know. I don't know whether to be annoyed or bemused. Particularly accusing someone whose father died in a mental health ward last year after being sectioned, of 'lacking empathy and a fuller understanding of the problem' - no it wasn't suicide, but believe me the issues of constant attacks on the self and wanting to die were/are very similar. To use your own phrasing, it's not rocket science to understand that other people have lived experience too.

I just read that comment that Benny picked out - pretty much confirms my original criticism. "You managed to take one observation & run with it to another level by taking it completely out of context" - seems not, and that you actually are invested in a narrative about how oppressed men are. Maturity consists - among other things - in being able to recognise other forms of oppression that do not relate directly to you, and respecting that tackling these is not a danger to your own concerns. Elsewhere in your posts though you do allude to the issues that women face (seemingly tacitly agreeing with all I've said about the socialisation of gender being an important factor in mental health), so I think it's just joining the dots.


condolences for losing your Father in such horrendous circumstances, but other people have had far more monstrous lives, lost friends & relatives through medical negligence, i'll spare you and the fucko gimps who troll here the details because stooping to that is unnecessary due to the levels of bs from previous members

there is tacit agreement with differences in how men & women are treated by the care system, not on broader socialization reasons for the discrepancy in suicide rates....

am i "invested" in male suicide rates? very much yes, personally & professionally, but does that mean that i see the problem as oppression of males or that i ignore the oppression of others?

i wont credit that with a fuller explanation, there's enough for you to misinterpret from previous posts, as per

thought raising the issue of male suicide in Britain would draw in what i thought were open minds on this forum, considering its a sausage-fest

clearly not, things are far too incestuous here for their own good

seriously doe, if Sadcuntbarfy wants to meet up for a chinwag any time, it would be an honour to look you in the eye & hear you repeat those lines in person

cue hive mind lols & whateverthefuck else passes for discussion on this forum

my mistake, thought there was some music to share & learn about, but only the more quiet souls here seem to have any musical chops.......nuff said

bunch of fkn kids
 
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luka

Well-known member
the temper tantrums were one reason i stopped smoking skunk. all smokers get them.
 

luka

Well-known member
and he'll either leave the forum or wind his neck in. it's not like we've never seen it before lol
 

padraig (u.s.)

a monkey that will go ape
seriously doe, if Sadcuntbarfy wants to meet up for a chinwag any time, it would be an honour to look you in the eye & hear you repeat those lines in person

dude aren't you like a nearing middle age mental health professional? did you really feeling good about typing and posting that? I can't imagine you did

obv the issue is near/dear to your heart but come on now

from your prior posts you seem like a smart/interesting cat I'm sure people would be happy to see stick around but if not yunno whatever

stirring up the ol dissensus hive mind is very much encouraged btw just don't be a jerk about it
 

padraig (u.s.)

a monkey that will go ape
while I'm here, hello + welcome back mr. tea!

and deepest condolences to baboon about your dad, sorry for your loss
 

sadmanbarty

Well-known member
Ayatollah reynolds shall not be used to besmirch my good name

“sadmanbarty was eye opening-what an interesting cat, dedicated seeker of music”

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martin

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You're all wrong. It grates when you're straight. Read The Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam.

I gave up fags in June 2016. For what? To buy extra timein the dementia ward, rocking back and forth in a wet patch, screaming for the nurse like a baby? Cleaner lungs, brain torn to shreds.

Here's a photo of Heaven.

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CORP$EY

no mickey mouse ting
lolz as always martin but don't forget that smoking is linked with an increase chance of dementia so by quitting you might have ensured that you'll be rocking back and forth in an old person's home, surrounded by the demented, completely clear of mind, which might even be worse :)

anyway, I think by the time we're old VR will have come along leaps and bounds and it'll be the best time of our whole lives :poop:
 

luka

Well-known member
You're all wrong. It grates when you're straight. Read The Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam.

I gave up fags in June 2016. For what? To buy extra timein the dementia ward, rocking back and forth in a wet patch, screaming for the nurse like a baby? Cleaner lungs, brain torn to shreds.

Here's a photo of Heaven.

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lovely photo but who wants to go back to that before drugs had been invented and you just drank 6 pints of warm piss weak beer smoked 60 roll ups shit yourself and went home to bed at 11.30pm
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
lovely photo but who wants to go back to that before drugs had been invented and you just drank 6 pints of warm piss weak beer smoked 60 roll ups shit yourself and went home to bed at 11.30pm

^there speaks a man who can no longer drink six pints without shitting himself
 
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