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    deserves its own thread. saw this rundown today, kind of stunning how it's all come out in the just the past month...

    Men accused of sexual misconduct post-Weinstein, compiled by AP.

    Entertainment:
    Celebrity chef John Besh
    Comedian Louis C.K.
    Cinefamily executives Hadrian Belove and Shadie Elnashai
    Actor Richard Dreyfuss: One woman alleges sexual harassment. He denies the allegation.
    Director-producer Gary Goddard
    Casting employee Andy Henry
    Actor Dustin Hoffman: Accused by woman of sexual harassing when she was 17. He has apologized.
    Actor Robert Knepper
    Showrunner Andrew Kreisberg
    Actor Jeremy Piven: Accused by three women of sexual misconduct. He denies all allegations.
    Filmmaker Brett Ratner
    Comedy festival organizer Gilbert Rozon
    Producer Chris Savino
    Actor Steven Seagal: Accused by two women of rape. He denies the allegations.
    Actor Tom Sizemore: Accused of groping an 11-year-old actress in 2003. Utah prosecutors declined to file charges, citing witness and evidence problems. He denies the allegation.
    Actor Kevin Spacey
    Actor Jeffrey Tambor
    Actor George Takei
    Writer-director James Toback
    "Mad Men" creator Matthew Weiner
    Actor Ed Westwick

    Media, publishing and business:
    Billboard magazine executive Stephen Blackwell
    Penguin Random House art director Giuseppe Castellano
    New Republic publisher Hamilton Fish
    Mark Halperin
    Artforum publisher Knight Landesman
    NPR news chief Michael Oreskes
    Amazon executive Roy Price
    Webster Public Relations CEO Kirt Webster
    Rolling Stone publisher Jann Wenner: Accused by one man of sexual harassment. He says he did not intend to make the accuser uncomfortable.
    New Republic editor Leon Wieseltier
    NBC News booking exec Matt Zimmerman

    Politics:
    Sen. Al Franken (D-Minn.)
    Senate candidate Roy Moore (R.-Ala.)
    Florida Democratic Party Chairman Stephen Bittel: Accused of sexually inappropriate comments and behavior toward a number of women, Bittel resigned Friday.
    Florida Democratic state Sen. Jeff Clemens resigned after a report that he had an extramarital affair with a lobbyist.
    Florida Republican state Sen. Jack Latvala is being investigated by the Senate over allegations of harassment and groping. Latvala has denied the allegations.
    Kentucky House Speaker Jeff Hoover
    British Defense Secretary Michael Fallon

    Sports:
    International Olympic Committee member Alex Gilady
    Former South African soccer association president Danny Jordaan
    Former FIFA president Sepp Blatter

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    Stunning, yes, but I'm a bit disturbed they've included a guy just because he had an affair. That's hardly in the same ballpark as rape or even harassment and crosses the line from naming alleged malefactors to straight-up prurient moralizing, I think.
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    true, tea, but that's one out of 43 people listed, so don't be too disturbed.

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    Obviously it's not disturbing compared to the rest of the list! All the same I think it's important to avoid anything that could be seen as trivialising what is clearly a crucial moment in legal and political history.
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    absolutely. i think most people are in agreement that guys should get called out for making inappropriate remarks to women, but that's very different from gropers and rapists.

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    Simmons, who co-founded Def Jam, has often described how Ratner first curried favor by furnishing him with models after they met in 1987. Then an undergraduate studying film at New York University, Ratner seemed to know where the models lived in Manhattan, Simmons has said.

    “He was willing to do anything to be of use,” Simmons wrote in his book “Do You!: 12 Laws to Access the Power in You to Achieve Happiness and Success,” published in 2007. “After he hung around a bit and figured out that I liked models, then he made it his business to take me to every model’s apartment he could find.”

    Ratner, who has said his father abused drugs and became homeless, found in Simmons a willing surrogate. "He's my son, all right," Simmons told Vanity Fair.

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    I suppose the real test will be the number of actual convictions. I suspect very few on the above list will end up being convicted and most will continue with their careers eventually. I hope I'm wrong, obviously.

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    Photographer Terry Richardson & freelance journo for Vice Sam Kriss should be on there too I think. No surprises there really.

    Read somewhere the other day that Ron Jeremy has been accused *massive eye-roll*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leo View Post
    absolutely. but that's very different from gropers and rapists.
    Well, it is and it isn't, I'd say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benny B View Post
    Well, it is and it isn't, I'd say.
    sure, a guy who says to a female coworker "you look really hot in that dress" is out of line and should be dealt with accordingly. but that's a lot different from a guy who physically assaults and rapes women.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leo View Post
    sure, a guy who says to a female coworker "you look really hot in that dress" is out of line and should be dealt with accordingly. but that's a lot different from a guy who physically assaults and rapes women.
    Yeah, one is obviously a lot worse than the other but they're probably a lot more similar than they are different. All part of the same climate.

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    agree, and this seems to trip up some guys (especially older ones). while they know the latter is wrong and would never actually get physical with a woman, they still don't think it's a big deal to make inappropriate remarks. they'll say things were different back then, we're being too PC, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benny B View Post
    Yeah, one is obviously a lot worse than the other but they're probably a lot more similar than they are different. All part of the same climate.
    And frequently of course the comments women receive at work are a lot more explicit than a guy saying they look hot.

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    charlie freakin' rose??!! what has this world come to?

    one of the few mental images less appealing than judge roy moore in his tighty whities is charlie rose emerging naked from the shower.

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