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Thread: Near/Middle East dance musics (vintage + modern)

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    Quote Originally Posted by padraig (u.s.) View Post
    the single track that most exemplifies what this thread idea is about I think. if you know about more tunes like this, tell me asap.
    i have searched and it seems to be unique

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    Quote Originally Posted by padraig (u.s.) View Post
    I see u, sufi
    i see you Padraig and raise you

    i probably posted this before - starts getting great when adawia stops shouting "white honey, yr so sweet" 3 minutes in
    this guy was king of egyptian sha'abi in the 80's
    tbh i'm a bit out of touch, very much looking fwd to going thru these, thanks!!!

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    context:
    http://www.dissensus.com/showthread....hlight=shaaban &
    http://www.dissensus.com/showthread....hlight=shaaban
    i made an mp3 mixtape ages ago ... i'll see if i can dig up or re-do it on youtube

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    i compiled a stelfox asks about ethnic things compilation once lol



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    Default tell me everything you know about music in cairo...

    i'm going to cairo in july and am looking for places to go and check out good music, i'd like to check out some serious classical stuff but would also be very into going somewhere where people dance to plasticky super-poppy shaabi - the kind if stuff hesham abbas and all those dudes do. I'd like to know about places to buy music, names to look out for and all sorts of stuff. basically i want edumacating a bit before i go there. also if anyone has info on places to eat, that would be very cool too.

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    Default arabic music
    i've been listening to quite a bit of stuff that falls within this very loose category of late. i say very loose because i know there are all sorts of different styles practised withing the middle east, but mainly i've been checking for quite a bit of shaabi (hesham abbass, hakim, and on a more traditional tip, nas al ghiwanne - great live outfit, incidentally if you get the chance to see them) and rai (have been LOVING yah rayi, the latest album by khaled.

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    Default turkish(?) street dancing music question



    posted the-above-linked video on the sterns thread, but i want to know what kind of music these guys are playing, where i can buy it and who are the best names to look out for.
    i don't even know for sure that it's turkish, but think it might be, given the area this was happening and the general musical style.
    filmed this 2 weeks ago on west green road, near my new yard. was very cool to see and, for old dudes, they can really dance.

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    i'm still down with the arcola street mangal ocakbasi - you won't find better than there.
    and yes, would you all please quit with the restaurant talk untill my question has been answered!!!
    (if nothing else i am seriously hungry at the moment and this is not helping.)

    question answered on the other thread, as you were... any other good places to eat?
    my stipulation is that they must do good lambchops and kofte.



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    Default the world's best dancehall thread ever

    okay, so i've been a bit quiet lately but i'm loving vybz kartel's faggot correction on the steps rhythm and pretty much everything on the indian summer right now. anyone else got any hot tips?

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    Default dirty blues records

    now, i know my muddy waters from my bb king, my howlin' wolf from my john lee hooker, but i'm sure i could go a lot deeper with this stuff. i want to try to track down some really filthy, raw mississipi delta blues over the next few weeks but know very little about where to start - anyone care to to drop some science?

    Anyone here know about indian music?
    I've been listening to lost of Panjabi Hit Squad, RDB DJs, Tigerstyle stuff lately and someone's asked me to write about it. Stuff that's going on now I can handle really well as I can see how it works and comes together in terms of contemporary British street culture - eg the convergence of bhangra and 2step garage/R&B/hip-hop etc. However, being white English I have realised that I have several HUGE knowledge gaps that need plugging... can anyone recommend any good stuff to read on more trad forms of bhangra and Indian music as a whole? (Concise and to the point with a good geographical, sociological and cultural bent that would be fab.) Also if anyone can explain a few key terms to me I'd be forever indebted - like what exactly is "desi"?

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    klezmer - what's good, what's not; what's funny, what's serious?
    i've been downloading a lot of klezmer lately. i really like it but know comparatively little about it. i'm sure there are other threads about this but i'd like some tips. i'm quite into the idea of getting to know about the "authentic" side before i start delving into the more modern "comedy" stuff (have noticed tracks like "may the borscht be with you" etc), so com on, help me out... album names so i can buy some, good *old* recordings especially welcome, groups i should look out for, all that stuff... thanks

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    Tell me stuff about highlife music
    I like it a lot, but only normally get to hear it in late-night Ghanaian cabs or occasionally walking thru East London. I'd like to learn more, so artists to look out for, albums to get hold of gratefully received.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sufi View Post
    i see you Padraig and raise you
    seen, knew you'd throw down serious gear. like the way it heads off into clatter echo percussion space, v much my kinda thing (check that Khamis Henkish tune).

    I'll skim those shaabi threads, def into checking mix or playlist or whatever if you find it.

    kinda surprising how even today language is comparatively still such a barrier to anything with an other than Latin alphabet.

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    also I know that video above is amazing in the same way as the famous Russian wedding rap video, but I really can't legitimately recommend Derdiyoklar İkilisi highly enough


    that is an hour of cosmic, flanged-out electro-saz disco folk. "disco folk" sounds dubious but then you hear + you're like ya that both makes sense + is awesome.

    they were expatriates in Germany in the 70s and I have to think they picked up on some krautrock bits as well disco and obv Anatolian music.

    can you imagine them playing your wedding tho

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    Quote Originally Posted by luka View Post
    i compiled a stelfox asks about ethnic things compilation once
    woah that's pretty cool as well. even if I am kinda like how can any one person really be into that many things. I'm a generalist mostly but you gotta prioritize.

    the klezmer is what really puts it over the top.

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    Quote Originally Posted by padraig (u.s.) View Post
    kinda surprising how even today language is comparatively still such a barrier to anything with an other than Latin alphabet.
    that is correct - this is the sort of thing you're missing out on http://www.sama3y.net/forum/ glad to see it's still going
    online translators are getting better and better tho,

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    Quote Originally Posted by sufi View Post
    i have searched and it seems to be unique
    altho baris is playing in berlin tomoro apparently

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    there's a cast iron law of nature that means serious record collectors always end at kitsch. a result of the same-but-different quest and the inevitable diminishing returns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luka View Post
    there's a cast iron law of nature that means serious record collectors always end at kitsch
    this is one of my all-time favorite luka aphorisms, altho also it is just an alternate way of saying Record Collectors Are Pretentious Assholes.

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    thanks padraig. it's been a very aphoristic morning. done loads today and it's only lunchtime!

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    Quote Originally Posted by muser View Post
    that is pretty tite but tbh I can't get over all the novelty trilling etc in the background

    reminds me of hitchhiking around Mexico w/an Aussie + literally everyone who picked us up would start asking her about kangaroos

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