giant steps is 1960 so seems like a good dividing line.
ya there's a lotta that tbf. otoh, there are different kinds of psychedelic. there some truly fucking weird records from that era + shortly after. couple trends. the traditional arbiters of cultural completely lost touch w/what was cool so you get all kindsa weirdos getting $/studio access. also you get collectives of hippies making freeform music. also trained serious people making freeform records. some of it is unlistenable garbage, plenty is dated + embarrassing, but there are some great things too. Pärson Sound, The Beat of the Earth, The Godz, Baby Grandmothers, the first Amon Düül record, Musica Elettronica Viva, etc etc. there's tons of far out jazz + whatever too but I'm less expert on that.
In the late-60's hard rock was not once captured in the studio. on live albums and bootlegs there's tons but as far as studio goes it's as hard as warm piss.
psychedelic vibes ain't just about lush immersion
that is an untouchable heavy guitar studio record ca. 1968
i'm obsessed with drums so i personally jump on board once elvin jones and tony williams become prominant. other than that you're right. giant steps is essentailly taking the piss of bebop; it's a vision of the future without free jazz or modal jazz, it's just wizzing through more and more chords faster and faster.
thats good.
seriously hate the whimsy of brit psychedilia too. incense and peppermint. hate sgt pepper etc. all of it makes me puke. all whimsy in music disgusts me.
that being said the sweet dub can occasionally be heart shattering
walking bass is another one
the bass on this sounds archaic
compared to this (this is probably a desert island disc of mine)
this is a dub record I like
has the knack all the best dudes had of using flourishes, production tricks, addition/removal, etc to make something interesting out of the primordial bass ooze
same way top class disco etc producers kept 8-10+ minutes of 4x4 interesting by constantly adding, removing, altering elements over the main hypnotic groove
important thing w/dub anyway is how thoroughly its mindset and technique/ideas infiltrated music production, especially dance music.
The trails of Bebop, Hard bop, Parker, Miles & Coltrane flowering... IMHO '55-'65 is the golden decade for Jazz surely?
If you dont like 70's dub, you dont like dub. That decade has never been equalled.
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