Atlanta Rap 2014-2016

sadmanbarty

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luka keeps pestering me to respond. not much to say. that mixtape's the perfect example of the transition.

i think we're all in agreement. it went from being dominated by that midi-orchstra sound (luka called it 'fanfare') to something less derivative, more ambient.

from horns, strings, bells, choir, conventional synth bleeps



to


 

luka

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a big shift has been this turn to fragmentary flows comprising of quick bursts of staccato triplets being broken up with lots of interjecting ad-libs. like people trying to make 'hold on se22 mix)' with their voices alone; it's the same sort of effect.




doesn't account for young thug though, he doesn't do much of this.

get right witcha is amazing.
 

sadmanbarty

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whats the best migos thing to listen to?

culture’s not very consistent but it's where they reach their psychedelic peek:

reynold’s favourite:


hold on se22 mix:





yrn 2 isn’t as innovative, but it’s probably the best lp overall. crowley says it’s the best thing they’ve done.


this is their peek in terms of conventional rapping:



don’t think you’ll like it, but i think no label 2 is them absorbing 1017 thug a little bit:




some good instrumentals on it:


https://youtu.be/BPAjChUWhvM

get right witcha is amazing.

Yeah, I think it was listening to that one that made think that they were descended from heaven. All those cherub flutes. Otherworldly.

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Mike Tyson’s bite (Ah urr ah urr)

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whos the one with the last verse on get right witcha? hes shit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hm1YFszJWbQ

assess the gucci verse in this migos context. prefer it? sounds old?

i fucking love this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uo14xGYwWd4
why are you working? put it off till tomorrow

takeoff, the most traditional rapper out of migos.

gucci verse is dire. not really a fan of him in general though. i’d say it’s ignoring migos’ innovations. they’re staccato, they rap in single lego blocks, they’re todd edwards samples, whereas gucci’s verse sounds like slime down tiles; a singular, viscous substance flowing as one.

takeoff. shittest name. i could have worked it out if id thought about it. obvious innit

todd edwards samples excatly.

migos are the apathetic version of this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1c9SaPWZVQ

do you like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSOgNCJmQvU
i really like it even yachty

i like it, don’t love it. it’s not transcendental and psychedelic like my favourite stuff by them, just a bit of fun. ad lib calling joe budden a pussy always makes me laugh, like playground humour.

i made the mistake of trying to find redeeming qualities of yachty, sort of though he was like millenial hauntology and thought that might be interesting. actually only ended up liking the stuff where he wasn;’t doing that sort of thing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIWDUClYs6I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8OG5ffqfoE

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DannyL

Wild Horses
Migos kinda reminded me of the black vocal group tradition that started with doo-wop and crossed over into soul. Quarterts and trios - lotso Lots of emphasis on vocal pyrotechnics rather than lyrics as such. I suppose Bone Thug are part of this lineage to.

My fave by then:

 

mistersloane

heavy heavy monster sound
Cramming this in b4 I gotta get on a bus in an hour.

So the crystalization in the early part of the 2010s occurs as a result of DJ Spinz. Spinz & DJ Pretty Boy Tank were brought in under DJ Scream into the Hoodrich Entertainment brand (Scream was an affiliate DJ in the Gangsta Grillz along w/ DJ Holiday).

Pretty Boy Tank just did a really good mix of new Atlanta stuff for Westwood :

 

luka

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He's talking about three 6 mafia doing triplets. Surely you have heard that stuff before?
 

luka

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Get back to him on the pissing issue he raised on the road rap thread. Great question which shouldn't be left dangling.
 

sadmanbarty

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if nothing comes of this i want personal apologies from third, luke and web.

"oh barty, we're so sorry. you're so funny and beautiful we couldn't believe that you could be so cleaver as well."

i'll still hold a grudge for a bit, but if you can stay in my good books i'll forgive you.
 

luka

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Answer the piss question. its personally tailored to you, a ball squared into the six yard box and the goalkeeper stranded in no mans land. He's gone out of his way to set you up.
 

forclosure

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I mean Three 6 werent the only ones in Memphis using triples and really it was only Lord Infamous,T-Rock & Kingpin Skinny Pimp doing it, Gangsta Pat comes to mind as far as that hard staccato thing, Tommy Wright III too hell even Z-ro if you wanna go outside of Memphis but his flow is slightly more measured it doesnt have the clipped quality that those guys do

But i just feel like their heavily in dept to Gucci without being in his orbit in the way Flocka,Nicki and them are their more animated and prefer a more springy and lusher beds of beats compared to him but that kind of commitment? to just talking about the same topics over again but the difference being Gucci went deeper into trying to find newer stranger ways to say an old thing.

I dunno im sure like Crowley says with UK drill im probably not picking up on the "minutae" what theyre doing but i just dont hear it, i feel like you get more personality out of them than i do where i feel like theres alot of flash and they dress like dancehall artists but thats it for something so broad they come off kinda dry for me ,its why i think overtime people went from overpraising Quavo to realising that maybe hes better off doing hooks more than anything and thats fine its just nah at worst like that Game of thrones shit or the james corden clip you might aswell just have a soundboard stored with their adlibs.

If you feel like im going hard on them like i said before there are a few songs that i like from em and i like them more than Travis Scott thats for sure

(also i typed this out at 3 cause i cant sleep so if this comes off scattered thats why)
 
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luka

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Bartys never listened to Gucci cos he got into rap in 2016 so this is a bit unfair on him. Before his time.
 

luka

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When corpsey was a rap critic he forced himself to listen to Gucci 12 hours a day cos it was the time of the Great Gucci reappraisal.
 
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