Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
Too far, man. I've got a sense of humour but I won't stand for humourless ignorant spite like that.
 

baboon2004

Darned cockwombles.
They are literally mates with Hamas. They believe the destruction of ancient Judah and Israel and the subsequent Diaspora were punishments from God for the sins of the Jews. That's the level of internalized anti-Semitism we're talking about here.

I mean at this point it's actually just pretty funny.

Do we call the levels of non-caring in Israel towards Holocaust survivors (allowing mass destitution, though things seem to have got slightly better recently) internalised anti-Semitism too? I think the question of internalised oppression is a v complicated one, and that Neturei Karta is odd insofar that it is extremely *consciously* articulated what the group believes.
 
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Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
Do we call the levels of non-caring in Israel towards Holocaust survivors (allowing mass destitution, though things seem to have got slightly better recently) internalised anti-Semitism too?

I dunno. I make no claim to have any special insight into the Jewish soul, although it does strike me that Israel is a pretty dysfunctional society even before you consider the obscenity of the ongoing land grabs and brutalization of the occupied territories. There's huge resentment of the ultra-orthodox community, who as far as I can tell simply get paid everyone else's tax shekels to breed and read the Torah, there's a lot of racism within the Jewish population itself and I've heard awful things about recent arrivals from Russia who've turned out to be literal far-right skinheads with a taste for street attacks on Hasidim and daubing swastikas on synagogues. But they're allowed to settle there under Israeli law because they had one Jewish grandparent, which is the same criterion for Jewishness that the Nazis used.

I'm sure you could dedicate your life to understanding the psychology at work here and still not get to the bottom of it.
 
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luka

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Too far, man. I've got a sense of humour but I won't stand for humourless ignorant spite like that.

if you make it your business, as you do, to irritate people, to stridently declaim opinions in places you know full well those opinions are unpopular, if you hector and berate and grandstand perpetually, if you're always always wrong, then i dont really see that you can complain when people get annoyed.

it's literally what you ask for. there are plenty of right wing spaces on the internet where your views would be welcomed so why keep spamming us with them? i seriously dont get it. there is a deeply masochistic side to you. i was very drunk last night and as i say, having far too much fun, but really why do it to yourself? its weird.
 

luka

Well-known member
youve got lots of good qualities but you keep sabotaging yourself and making yourself unpopular and irritating. it's silly.
 

john eden

male pale and stale
Hard to take the moral high ground when you got wasted the night before and used someone’s real name on here whilst falsely announcing they were racist.

A bit of humility and an apology would be traditional.
 

DannyL

Wild Horses
if you make it your business, as you do, to irritate people, to stridently declaim opinions in places you know full well those opinions are unpopular, if you hector and berate and grandstand perpetually, if you're always always wrong, then i dont really see that you can complain when people get annoyed.

it's literally what you ask for. there are plenty of right wing spaces on the internet where your views would be welcomed so why keep spamming us with them? i seriously dont get it. there is a deeply masochistic side to you. i was very drunk last night and as i say, having far. too much fun, but really why do it to yourself? its weird.

IIRC Olly was out campaigning for Labour Party in the last election - correct me if I'm wrong Olly? What were you doing Luka? Sneering at all from the internet?
 

luka

Well-known member
no need for you to get involved. i got a bit carried away, i was enjoying myself too much and so i deleted the messages when i woke up this morning

im pretty sure tea hasnt deleted the messages about droid or the people on facebook hes called racist recently.
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
youve got lots of good qualities but you keep sabotaging yourself and making yourself unpopular and irritating. it's silly.

Bobby Bisto said:
olver sudden dances on the graves of palestinian children

I donate to a charity that literally saves Palestinian children's lives. I've protested outside the Israeli embassy. And what do you do, exactly, that doesn't either materially benefit you or amuse you? Sweet fuck all as far as I can see.

The perfectly self-interested, self-employed entrepreneur. Now tell me again which one of us is a Tory.

I've blocked you on FB because I can't be doing with fuckhead behaviour like this.
 

thirdform

pass the sick bucket
honestly just thought luka was murking there didn't realise u lot had gone so serious.

Still my comment about hating socialism being so early 20th c still stands.
 

luka

Well-known member
my enemies are circling. they smell blood in the water. maybe this is the end for me.
i'm done for. the superego has spoken. daddy has come home.
tea is the figurehead of this brave new world.
i had a good run so im handing over the torch without bitterness or regrets.
he is your leader now.
 

luka

Well-known member
im not wholly hostile to the logic either. i understand it.
i know perfectly well when im being a cunt and worst of all i enjoy it.
it's gleeful cuntishness. when teas being a cunt it's priggish and self-righteous and
therefore has a certain innocence. he must enjoy it at some level but on the
surface at least it has a pained and ill-tempered quality.

but anyway, enough of this. you've had your say. the people have spoken
and i will abide by your ruling.
 

luka

Well-known member
and one last thing i want to make it absolutely plain that mr tea has not, to the best of my knowledge, danced on the graves of any palestinian children. i dont think he has had the opportunity and i personally beleive that were he given such an opportunity he would refuse to take it. his sense personal decency would not allow for it. i want to remove any ambiguity on that score before i retire.
 

luka

Well-known member
i also am sorry i implied eden is boring. he pissed me off by using the matrix as a proxy for me and attacking it. i sholdnt have risen to the bait. leaders always attract that kind of thing and should be big enough to ignore it. mr tea will have to deal with those problems now. i have removed the crown and passed the sceptre to him.
 

baboon2004

Darned cockwombles.
Why the resistance to saying 'sorry'? People get themselves in knots to avoid saying that simple word.

You said something way over the line (I've just seen the one thing Tea quoted). No enemies, no conspiracy.

And I say this as someone who disagrees with Mr Tea on most everything political.
 
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