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    yet we spend a not-insignificant amount of time discussing drone and ambient.

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    It all started to get a bit shaky when people decided Grime and Dubstep were over and UK Funky was the latest incarnation.

    So, 2007/8: http://www.uncarved.org/blog/2008/01/rave-futures/

    To be fair after that point a lot of the people who used to write about this stuff became emphatically too old to be going out raving too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leo View Post
    yet we spend a not-insignificant amount of time discussing drone and ambient.
    i think he means Londoners in general

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    oh sorry yeah we being londoners but also probably the whole south-east of the country.

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    or if you think of soul-weekeneders

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    Northern Soul?

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    id prefer not to talk about the north. it's a differernt country. we have nothing in common whatsoever.

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    ive never been there and i never want to go there. they listen to steve lamaq all the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luka View Post
    oh sorry yeah we being londoners but also probably the whole south-east of the country.
    ah, ok...thought "we" was dissensus discussion.

    as an old foreigner, i've got nothing to contribute here really except to say that in general when talking about musical and cultural trends, people often think things start to suck/end as they get older (it was better back in the day!) but at the same time there's usually a young generation coming up who feel they've created their own thing and are glad that the older folks either dismiss it or sometimes don't even know of it exists.

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    cities like Liverpool Manchester Birmingham Bristol all have west indian communities

    so it's interesting that London is hardcore continuum central - is this just because London is by its very nature a gravitational point for creativity? that it has a higher population? or that any narrative of british culture is probably going to focus on London, not least because a lot of journos live in London?

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    it's important to remember that anywhere north of enfield is wales. real england is london and essex

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    The ironic thing about London is its this huge cosmopolitan magnet for immigration and yet its inhabitants tend to be basically provincially minded

    I can see why btw - since moving here only a few years ago I've basically forgotten the rest of the country exists

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    Quote Originally Posted by CORP$EY View Post
    cities like Liverpool Manchester Birmingham Bristol all have west indian communities

    so it's interesting that London is hardcore continuum central - is this just because London is by its very nature a gravitational point for creativity? that it has a higher population? or that any narrative of british culture is probably going to focus on London, not least because a lot of journos live in London?
    the other thing to remember of course is that the media is in London so stuff that happens elsewhere tends to be off-radar

    perhaps that's one of the reasons the nuum has died - in the internet era nothing in London can possibly happen without being corrupted by attention

    'In physics, the observer effect is the theory that simply observing a situation or phenomenon necessarily changes that phenomenon.'

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    probably covered extensively in the 'if new york can die so can london' thread - but with the increasing marginalisation of working class and even middle class people in the capital, will the more exciting cultural innovations be happening in other cities in the future?

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    These days it's much more interesting to find out about pirate radio in Hull, or reggae soundsystems in Huddersfield than London stuff.

    Hackney Museum are planning an exhibition about black music in the borough and I am helping them with some bits.

    I love London and don't want to live anywhere else, even now, but it's pretty dumb to ignore the contributions made to the culture by places like Bristol, Birmingham and Sheffield especially.

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