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    Of course I'm not arguing in good faith. That is the liberal creedo. politics is war by any other means. I'm arguing on your terms. I'm giving you exactly what you want. If I was really as ideologically pure as you say I'd dismiss you as a lost cause.

    I am anti-corbynism but even in 2015 I had a tiny tiny infinitecimal hope there might have been a push to the left. that's why I wanted to see it run its course. But the exact opposite of this happened. Your party has killed the organised left. it has been liquidated and finely sieved. Like I'm not sure why you're trying to paint me out as someone with power. Your side is the one who has power. Don't blame me if they are incompetent, that ain't my problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by other_life View Post
    nothing wrong with that.

    There is actually quite a lot wrong with it as a political strategy but I'm not even owning him here. I'm just probing.

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    people like canary, chris williamson, squoukbox, Eleanor Penny, Grace Blakeley, Aaron Bastani, Seamus Miln, Andrew Murray, etc etc had the most nominal of presences in the internationalist left. yes, we all knew about them, but they were totally impotent. The canary woman was even hanging out with Richie Allen on his David Icke show. It is the labour party that created this artificial battle.

    these people backed corbyn because he made socialism out to be this pliable nice things that good people do to good people and capitalism as bad things bad people do to good people, these management consultants and oxbridge diplomats then restricted the more switched on wing of the party, and then when john lansman dares to contravene the leadership this arsenal of red brown muck is pounced on him. This then forced Lansman to hold onto momentum via the most unrepresentative means. there is a real real disconnect between pro-corbyn labour party supporters and corbynists. Something you superficially seem to trying to illustrate but you have access to part of the disposal products of intellectual production. Instead of using that like we are you are trying to play this game of the good christian.

    All this rigged economy stuff coming from even Blakeley and co. is straight out of a 1920s nazbol pamphlet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by other_life View Post
    nothing wrong with that.
    How do you feel about your current president and his supporters even further to the right?

    Serious question.
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    Anyone been following the events in Hong Kong?

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    What did you do?

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    Im probably going to get assassinated by the Chinese government for this but last week I think it was a group of ancient wizened but very venerable old chinese people approached me and explained they were veterans of the yellow umbrella movement and they were in London to protest over the proposed change to the extradition laws. They told a lot about the umbrella protests and about the meaness of the uk government with regard to passports and about what the change in extradition law would mean. I was very touched actually. Genuinely humbled and also quite concerned. They weren't very robust looking and clearly not rich either.... anyway. ...

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    They wanted me to write a poem about freedom and standing up to power and stuff so I wrote a very powerful thing of course pressing all the right buttons snd they took loads of pictures and then recorded a very rousing rendition of my very powerful poem and posted it to the yellow umbrella facebook page etc so I directly inspired all those courageous people to take to the streets and win their temporary reprieve

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    That was much more believable than I expected.

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    That's cos its literally true.

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    Clearly.

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    The proverbial pebble that starts an avalanche! Nice one.

    Prepare to be called a CIA stooge by zhao, lol.
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    Yeah funnily enough I was running through the argument premptively as a drifted off last night, playing both parts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luka View Post
    Yeah funnily enough I was running through the argument premptively as a drifted off last night, playing both parts.
    This is a highly underrated recreational activity.
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