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    Default Cambridge Analytica + Psyops + The Beast

    what about "The Beast" though?
    is that zuckerberg's dog?

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    idk whether they'd know all this stuff (did the API return friends' private messages?), but on some level this just is targeted marketing, the basis for the modern web. everyone does it - including the obama campaign, who did it on a much bigger scale.

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    March 2018 wasn't a great month for the IT-behemoths. FB-Datascandal, the "autonomous" Uber car killing a person.

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    another analysis proving that I'm right about the cambridge analytica scandal: http://blogs.harvard.edu/doc/2018/03/23/nothing/

    one of the (kind of obvious when you think about it) things it points out is that the newspapers reporting on it are doing the exact same thing they're accusing CA / FB of -- selling your data to unknown entities for unknown purposes -- including on articles *about* cambridge analytica:

    Let’s start with Facebook’s Surveillance Machine, by Zeynep Tufekci in last Monday’s New York Times. Among other things (all correct), Zeynep explains that “Facebook makes money, in other words, by profiling us and then selling our attention to advertisers, political actors and others. These are Facebook’s true customers, whom it works hard to please.”

    Irony Alert: the same is true for the Times, along with every other publication that lives off adtech: tracking-based advertising. These pubs don’t just open the kimonos of their readers. They bring people’s bare digital necks to vampires ravenous for the blood of personal data, all for the purpose of returning “interest-based” advertising to those same people.

    With no control by readers (beyond tracking protection which relatively few know how to use, and for which there is no one approach or experience), and damn little care or control by the publishers who bare those readers’ necks, who knows what the hell actually happens to the data? No one entity, that’s for sure.

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    The same irony applies to countless other correct and important reporting on the Facebook/Cambridge Analytica mess by other writers and pubs. Take, for example, Cambridge Analytica, Facebook, and the Revelations of Open Secrets, by Sue Halpern in yesterday’s New Yorker. Here’s what RedMorph shows going on behind that piece:


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    Quote Originally Posted by vimothy View Post
    another analysis proving that I'm right about the cambridge analytica scandal: http://blogs.harvard.edu/doc/2018/03/23/nothing/

    one of the (kind of obvious when you think about it) things it points out is that the newspapers reporting on it are doing the exact same thing they're accusing CA / FB of -- selling your data to unknown entities for unknown purposes -- including on articles *about* cambridge analytica:
    Sorry, but the cartoon on that page is brilliant:

    vampire-personal-data_250px.jpg

    Steve Bell must be shitting himself!
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    The list of friends' info that 'data developers' would have had access to seems to be:

    About me
    Actions
    Activities
    Birthday
    Check-ins
    Education history
    Events
    Games activity
    Groups
    Hometown
    Interests
    Likes
    Location
    Notes
    Online presence
    Photo and video tags
    Photos
    Questions
    Relationship details
    Relationships
    Religion
    Politics
    Status
    Subscriptions
    Website
    Work history

    A lot of info for sure, but it doesn't seem as if the contents of private conversations were available. And do people really put a lot of their work history up on Fb?It doesn't necessarily seem that (going from the Twitter feed that Danny linked to) the financial circumstances of users would necessarily have been available to CA etc, unless I'm missing something.

    Also, if the whole CA operation depended upon targeting 70,000 or so people in swing states, then the bigger obvious problem - as with the shock Tory 'landslide' in 2015, widely credited to Lynton Crosby's relentless focus on marginals - is that the electoral systems here and particularly in the States, are susceptible to being mainipulated by targeting relatively few people.

    Edit: Following on from what Vimothy said, an article on the Obama campaign's Project Narwhal in 2012, and the leap made between 2008 and 2012: http://www.slate.com/articles/news_a...012_race_.html
    "(in 2008) Obama campaign staffers were exasperated at what seemed like a basic system failure: They had records on 170 million potential voters, 13 million online supporters, 3 million campaign donors and at least as many volunteers—but no way of knowing who among them were the same people."
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    I haven't seen much press on this but facebook just got a major slapdown in the Irish courts which may have severe consequences for all tech data sharing.

    http://www.thejournal.ie/facebook-ma...54304-Apr2018/

    Of course if the commissioner had done his job in 2013, Cambridge wouldnt have been able to do what they did in the first place.

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