Someone has started an "old skool forum for music, discussion and discovery"

[pattycakes_]

i really want to delete my facebook you know. it feels very tyrannical.

Deleted mine in August. Didn't download any data, just cold delete. Haven't looked back.

[thirdform]

they are just white people pretending to be diverse and ban any poc that doesn't agree with their hard victorian paternalism.

So many people in club scene are like this. really nice people on the outside, good people you want to have a drink with on a night out, but more into pleasantry than caring.

[other_life]

and im about as far left as they come.

at the end of the day this is why they don't like us though, isn't it? they're "radical" liberals. they can't really grasp liberalism by the root. never really get past the things it presupposes.

[other_life]

i deleted my facebook like 2 years ago and it feels great i also only tweet behind the mask of a fiction who's a 35 year old Chillwaver Forum-Reading Head. i still have a ways to go to cure my irony poisoning and be better about Going Long and being confident enough to form coherent positions and defend them.
please be patient with me i have autism

[luka]

at the end of the day this is why they don't like us though, isn't it? they're "radical" liberals. they can't really grasp liberalism by the root. never really get past the things it presupposes.

What does it presuppose? What are the unexamined foundations it rests on do you think? I think this is interesting stuff, on my end from trying to work out how it operates as social coding, what puts any of us on the outside of the it, to the extent any of us are outside of it , unacceptable in some non specific way.

[thirdform]

presupposes atomisation and dog eat as dog as an eternal law of nature. but as you said, eventually with dog eat dog there is noone left to eat and the big dogs just start orbiting themselves in a circus with nothing to leach off. the supply is not infinite.

[thirdform]

like you can make a career out of denouncing people for being insufficiently pure but eventually it just ... runs out of steam. if you don't try and reconstruct something after deconstructing it its all a bit nihilistic and pointless. entropy doesn't mean we can't not have narritive-identities we create to situate ourselves in the world (which is different to identity politics...)

[other_life]

What does it presuppose? What are the unexamined foundations it rests on do you think? I think this is interesting stuff, on my end from trying to work out how it operates as social coding, what puts any of us on the outside of the it, to the extent any of us are outside of it , unacceptable in some non specific way.

it presupposes nonexistent ideological and behavioral purity... the onus of conscience-raising is on the individual as they relate to special oppressions and privileges in distinct groups, which you can be in multiples/overlaps of but you always have to specify which precisely!, ditto w oppression and prejudice every Kind is listed as being Barred From These Spaces.
as opposed to solidarity on the lines of where u fit in, in terms of how u relate to production, the reproduction of quotidian life, ownership of its means or being its means for someone else Yadda Yadda Yadda

[other_life]

they presuppose civilisation; we are its wreckers.
communists are barbarians. socialism is barbarism, communism or collective suicide.

[thirdform]

they've read too much deleuze and not enough bordiga. Deleuze is all the 80s retrofuturist cliches that barty castigates me for. darkside hardcore was far more advanced than deleuze.

[other_life]

music (as a practice) distills and catapults so far forward once prescient theory as to make that theory unwieldy and irrelevant

[chava]

they are just white people pretending to be diverse and ban any poc that doesn't agree with their hard victorian paternalism.

I got banned from 555 because I questioned the idea of "The Patriarchy". So there.

[pattycakes_]

Deleted mine in August. Didn't download any data, just cold delete. Haven't looked back.

back on cos it's the best way to know about events here not using it that much, but still...