Jordan Peterson thinks it makes sense to compare humans with lobsters

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
"There he is on the back cover, assuming the stance of a man warming the backs of his legs over a log fire, with wispy white hair, with specs, tapestry waistcoat, crimson cravat, and tight, dutiful, chinny smile. He doesn’t look like a man of iron, but there’s definitely something steely about him. He is unironical about himself, and naively vain... Mr Bly wants respect; he has plenty of bristles and prickles; like Bronco toilet-paper, he takes no shit from anyone. He is, in fact, that familiar being, the ‘strong personality’. This kind of strength is innate and not acquired, and is always looking for ways to expand. ‘Zeus energy is male authority accepted for the sake of the community’. It sounds like a marvellously elemental excuse for getting away with everything. Zeus energy, ‘hurricane energy’: here is something that sweeps all before it. Would you want to tell Zeus to take out the garbage? Would you want to ask a hurricane to wipe its feet on the mat?"
 

yyaldrin

in je ogen waait de wind
was just watching a video where he's describing going on a date where the woman brings some penis sex machine and he some fake vagina so that they can just drink tea and have the machines do the work

 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
Zizek and Peterson linked by their oddball qualities, which are surely instrumental in establishing them on such a huge stage. It's not just the ideas, it's Zizek's slobbering gesticulating and Peterson's constipated voice and his 'bloody' this and 'bloody' that. 'It's aboot cleaning your bloody room!'
 

Agent

dgaf ngaf cgaf
So no one else is a fan of JP's lectures on DMT and Disney films? I'm the only one?! As far as his public persona, don't you think some of it is reading/playing to the crowd? Maybe he's just assuming the father role Gen X'ers were never equal to so you millennial media consumption/porn/wank addicts don't end up, you know, incel and depressed/angry about it. Eat some steak with your bare hands. Punch a grown man in the face. Don't rape a woman but force your will on her. And fucking wake up: the Russia/Syria/Iran axis is sodomizing you (Western civilization), and it's like you blame yourself or your parents and just accept it. (Pretend to) be a man!

Almost done.
 

Agent

dgaf ngaf cgaf
you're on your own

No kidding. Some things never change. Maybe I'm immune to the hysteria and jouissance that drives these hyperbolic debates about identity politics. It just sounds like everyone proclaiming their identity at the same time, just trying to drown out anyone who doesn't fit their prototype of what a person is supposed to be. It's all just noise signifying nothing, post-semantic groupthink, debates that arrive at nothing and just keep spiraling down the drain. Ever since social media started consuming every aspect of life, identity politics has become the pathetic dying whimper of political, philosophical, and intellectual discourse. This applies to both ends of the political spectrum, which have become absurd self-parodies. Future generations are watching and laughing, trust me.

Anyone interested in JP in his professional, not public, persona as a psychoanalyst should check out his university lectures (mostly in front of young women). Some good ones:

Why you shouldn't lie and the truth about DMT:
 

chava

Well-known member
No kidding. Some things never change. Maybe I'm immune to the hysteria and jouissance that drives these hyperbolic debates about identity politics. It just sounds like everyone proclaiming their identity at the same time, just trying to drown out anyone who doesn't fit their prototype of what a person is supposed to be. It's all just noise signifying nothing, post-semantic groupthink, debates that arrive at nothing and just keep spiraling down the drain. Ever since social media started consuming every aspect of life, identity politics has become the pathetic dying whimper of political, philosophical, and intellectual discourse. This applies to both ends of the political spectrum, which have become absurd self-parodies. Future generations are watching and laughing, trust me.

Anyone interested in JP in his professional, not public, persona as a psychoanalyst should check out his university lectures (mostly in front of young women). Some good ones:

Why you shouldn't lie and the truth about DMT:

I'm a huge fan. Hard to state in public in here, though. All the commotion around him is mostly caused by bad-faith readings by dimwit journalists, really.

His university lectures are a prime example of how to lecture about extremely complicated problems in a way that most should be able to follow. His lectures before he got (in)famous are more humorous and sprawling, and I prefer those after he got a public figure and started his paleo diet.
 

droid

Well-known member
The man is a fucking idiot. He thought the accusation of 'romancing the noble savage' referred to him having gay sex with an indigenous Canadian tribesman. He has an entire spiel about how archaeological carvings show how the ancients knew about DNA, when in fact they are just pictures of snakes fucking.
 

droid

Well-known member
He's a lower tier academic who lied about an equality law to gain notoriety and then leveraged that notoriety into a blank cheque by repackaging tired right wing philosophy with rudimentary self help, and flirting with fascist ideas and the alt right. His most attractive qualities are his mercenary cynicism and complete disregard for the consequences of his actions.
 

chava

Well-known member
yeah, obviously I don't agree. I don't think we'll get anywhere further, though, haha.
 

Agent

dgaf ngaf cgaf
The man is a fucking idiot. He thought the accusation of 'romancing the noble savage' referred to him having gay sex with an indigenous Canadian tribesman.


I don't see the connection between these two statements. So does it mean something else? Maybe group sex followed by human sacrifice? That's noble, romantic, and savage all at once.
 

droid

Well-known member
Its a well worn cliche. The Western romanticisation of pure 'uncivilised' peoples.

"A noble savage is a literary stock character who embodies the concept of the indigene, outsider, wild human, an "other" who has not been "corrupted" by civilization, and therefore symbolizes humanity's innate goodness."

Peterson, however, seems to have modelled his public persona on Jung rather than Campbell. The Swiss sage sported a ring ornamented with the effigy of a snake—the symbol of light in a pre-Christian Gnostic cult. Peterson claims that he has been inducted into “the coastal Pacific Kwakwaka’wakw tribe”; he is clearly proud of the Native American longhouse he has built in his Toronto home.

Peterson may seem the latest in a long line of eggheads pretentiously but harmlessly romancing the noble savage. But it is worth remembering that Jung recklessly generalized about the superior “Aryan soul” and the inferior “Jewish psyche” and was initially sympathetic to the Nazis. Mircea Eliade was a devotee of Romania’s fascistic Iron Guard. Campbell’s loathing of “Marxist” academics at his college concealed a virulent loathing of Jews and blacks. Solzhenitsyn, Peterson’s revered mentor, was a zealous Russian expansionist, who denounced Ukraine’s independence and hailed Vladimir Putin as the right man to lead Russia’s overdue regeneration.
 
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