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    Default 1990s hypes revisited - loose series installment 03 - "Illbient"

    Me thinks, this was somehow the geographically distant cousin of trip hop, a bit rouger maybe. Very 1990s til early 00s and US-East coast-y. Main label Wordsound. I quite liked this stuff.


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    this series is basically recapitulating the semi-hip 40 year old sells cd collection thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luka View Post
    this series is basically recapitulating the semi-hip 40 year old sells cd collection thread.
    It's more recapitulating the hypes in my 90s music mags I am currently rereading - possibly a lot overlapping, though

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    Wordsound was an odd one. Many jewels buried in some quite boring hip hop. The scrappiness was cool. Sensational and the Crooklyn Dub comps. That weird early Bug LP and the Scorn one.

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    PAN reissued that Ruff Kutz tape by Spectre a few years ago.


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    Quote Originally Posted by firefinga View Post
    Me thinks, this was somehow the geographically distant cousin of trip hop, a bit rouger maybe. Very 1990s til early 00s and US-East coast-y. Main label Wordsound. I quite liked this stuff.
    Isn't it basically to trip hop what horrorcore was to hip hop?

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    Quote Originally Posted by version View Post
    Isn't it basically to trip hop what horrorcore was to hip hop?
    It was a bit more sophisticated than that (horrorcore is good though). The Wordsound stuff did leak into the Wu-Tang mythology (Skiz was down to do one of those 33 1/3 books on 36 Chambers) but also afrofuturist Egyptology / Sun Ra type stuff and Rasta.

    That film they did is an underrated b-movie cult classic.

    At the other end you had stuff like DJ Spooky and that other label I forget the name of that was a bit more arty/academic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by john eden View Post
    At the other end you had stuff like DJ Spooky and that other label I forget the name of that was a bit more arty/academic.
    Asphodel? I was fond of DJ Spooky when I was a student, but due to limited finances only ever listened to the below album. I have no idea what he produced afterwards, but I heard it wasn't spectacular.


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    Quote Originally Posted by m99188868 View Post
    Asphodel?
    Yep them ones. A bit dry maybe.

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    Eden will be thrilled to know that i once went to an Ozric Tentacles gig (hey, we all make mistakes!) but that i know nothing about this genre. simon reynolds made it sound like the most bourgeois take on sample collage hip hop imaginable.

    Will listen later, if i don't like dj shadow endtroducing will i like this?

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    wow this spectre sounds bare hipster.

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    these 90s hypes threads are a bit of a drag because they make me realize how much time and money i wasted on some shit music! well, as has been discussed, i guess it was fun at the time but really finding it hard to even listen to some of these YT vids, i owned a few dj spooky albums but now the prospect of listening again makes me cringe.

    ps -- please don't extend this series to accommodate a "witch house revisited" thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdform View Post
    Eden will be thrilled to know that i once went to an Ozric Tentacles gig (hey, we all make mistakes!) but that i know nothing about this genre. simon reynolds made it sound like the most bourgeois take on sample collage hip hop imaginable.

    Will listen later, if i don't like dj shadow endtroducing will i like this?
    Ha! That's awesome confessional. I think I saw them once, by accident, at an all-nighter.

    You might like some of it but it depends on why you don't like Entroducing. It's not really sample collage... the 2nd Crooklyn Dub Consortium comp is worth a look. Also a few Sensational tracks just because.

    Everybody involved would have benefited from releasing less stuff, for definite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by john eden View Post
    Ha! That's awesome confessional. I think I saw them once, by accident, at an all-nighter.

    You might like some of it but it depends on why you don't like Entroducing. It's not really sample collage... the 2nd Crooklyn Dub Consortium comp is worth a look. Also a few Sensational tracks just because.

    Everybody involved would have benefited from releasing less stuff, for definite.
    I'm just glad i got sick of prog rock come 2nd year of uni and hence funk and swing was restored and i never went down the predictable shpongle route, thank god. I don't think I'd be able to handle that looking back.

    You know I didn't mind endtroducing wen i first heard it i was like yeah this isn't mindblowing but it's nice chill music but then it became so tokenised.

    actually this is a problem of mine now, i can't approach music with a dumb teenagers naivete and I'm now realising that actually, i would like that feeling and I'm not sure how to code the algorithmic john peel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdform View Post
    actually this is a problem of mine now, i can't approach music with a dumb teenagers naivete and I'm now realising that actually, i would like that feeling and I'm not sure how to code the algorithmic john peel.
    loss of innocence, life is cruel.

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