Yeah I get that, and I still think it applies. Not so much to music in their case, granted ('Voodoo Ray' notwithstanding).
... the tension here is between the tendencies towards life and death drives (Eros and Thanatos) which are highlighted by football.
I’d posit two states, states of creative play on the side of Eros, and on the other hand, the desire to preserve or return to an earlier state on the side of Thanatos. Barca’s power seems to be in their standing for the former when they are in a position of fame and importance which makes most clubs turn towards the latter. Chelsea are pure death drive manifested as sport: a paranoid machine who’s parts only care about restoring themselves to a time when they were considered the greatest in the world. Sometimes watching someone like Ballack play he looks trapped under the weight of his need to re-become ‘Ballack’, the proper name for the player who dragged along Germany and Munich single-handedly at times, of whom he is now only a simulacrum.
yeah that's fine but you need to do the next bit. youve not finished, Arthur Job.
Unless you're Autechre, who seem to be a single organism at this point.theres a thing about partnerships that pushes each member towards being a kind of caricature of themselves, to emphasise certain aspects of themselves and to hive off other characteristics onto the other partner. you become one sided in relationships i think. you amplify what is 'yours' i.e. those characteristics of yous the other doesnt share, and you disavow those aspects of yourself that are manifested more strongly and perfectly in the other.
dose that make sense? that's what ive found. it's a way to preserve distance and independence but it makes you a cardboard cut out.
luka and droid lol i never thought of that before
theres a thing about partnerships that pushes each member towards being a kind of caricature of themselves, to emphasise certain aspects of themselves and to hive off other characteristics onto the other partner. you become one sided in relationships i think. you amplify what is 'yours' i.e. those characteristics of yous the other doesnt share, and you disavow those aspects of yourself that are manifested more strongly and perfectly in the other.
dose that make sense? that's what ive found. it's a way to preserve distance and independence but it makes you a cardboard cut out.
that's what the audience wants too - a simple narrative - so some pairs get pushed in this direction by the media despite their best intentions. i think it's a human drive to simplify and to symbolise, but not a useful human drive.
Not useful? I'd argue that it's absolutely vital. It's by symbolizing, simplifying and categorizing (which of course can add up to stereotyping, which isn't ideal but is probably to an extent unavoidable) that we make sense of the world and manage not to be paralyzed by information overload every waking second of our lives. The ability to recognize that each thing, although individual in itself, will have many properties in common with others of its class. And not that I'm any kind of expert on mental illness or neurological conditions, but it seems to me that schizophrenia might be the result of an inability, or a severely impaired ability, to do this. (Feel free to tell me this in nonsense, anyone with experience in this field.)
Bit off-topic but I thought it was interesting.