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    remember when this thread was about music?

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    music is just a roundabout way to talk about me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pattycakes_ View Post
    Totally get your logic, but if you take into consideration the shit Surkov is up to it all becomes much more believable. The Russian mind is uber cryptic. Riddles wrapped in enigmas, double bluffs etc. Makes it all the more effective at keeping inquiring minds out. If you haven't already, watch hypernomalization. At least the Surkov bit, which I think is available on YouTube as a short clip. He basically gets the Kremlin to fund the extreme left and right, and then he announces it in the media leaving people not knowing if they're coming or going. His Wikipedia article has a bunch of interesting stuff. And the fact that he comes from a theatre background is interesting too. The beauty of it is that it really is so far fetched that even the smartest would never believe it. If I was trying to fuck with millions of people all at once I'd probably go that route instead of blowing big buildings up with planes.
    With Putin being high ranking KGB and and looking at what's going on during the last few years in Europe (russian money for right wing parties etc) or with Trump all of this makes a lot of sense.

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    misdirection and disinformation are techniques both countries use and in both cases the primary targets are their own people cos they treat their own people like conquered, colonised subjects. it's just a refinement and an acceleration of the classic playbook.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luka View Post
    top button on your shirt done up. huf cap. limited release trainers from footpatrol. hand stitched japanese 'streetwear; hoodie. ' goldsmiths replaces pirate radio as training ground and academy. the home counties displace london.

    none of which makes the music bad necessarily. just noting that the gentrification of neighborhoods was accompanied by the gentrification of the fashions and the music (and, to some extent, the food) endemic to those neighborhoods.
    When I think about this scene I think about Boiler Room too. Like Sicko Cell getting played at every Boiler Room. Perfect time for them to come along and gentrify club experiences. replace clubnights with weekday 7-11pm vibeless concerts ready to be sold to a sponsor. Feel like they really set the tone too, even when you weren't at Boiler Room, at a post-dubstep club night, it kinda felt like a Boiler Room without the cameras, just as stiff.

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    The spectacle cannot be abstractly contrasted to concrete social activity. Each side of such a duality is itself divided. The spectacle that falsifies reality is nevertheless a real product of that reality, while lived reality is materially invaded by the contemplation of the spectacle and ends up absorbing it and aligning itself with it. Objective reality is present on both sides. Each of these seemingly fixed concepts has no other basis than its transformation into its opposite: reality emerges within the spectacle, and the spectacle is real. This reciprocal alienation is the essence and support of the existing society.


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    In a world that has really been turned upside down, the true is a moment of the false.


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    The concept of “the spectacle” interrelates and explains a wide range of seemingly unconnected phenomena. The apparent diversities and contrasts of these phenomena stem from the social organization of appearances, whose essential nature must itself be recognized. Considered in its own terms, the spectacle is an affirmation of appearances and an identification of all human social life with appearances. But a critique that grasps the spectacle’s essential character reveals it to be a visible negation of life—a negation that has taken on a visible form.


    That heavy french shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luka View Post
    again i havent read enough books to know what you are talking about but if you ever get a chance
    to wriggle free after over 20 years of menial labour at monimum wage or slightly more, digging trenches, pushing wheelbarrows, pouring pints, making coffees, you will understand how good it feels. what a scarely believable relief it is to exist outside of that world for however long it might last for. feels like pissing rainbows.

    I envy you. will probably be doing audio typing in a call centre in a few months time. or working for a visually impaired company (well, charity) that treats its customers like absolute shite by selling the most of basic phones for £300

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    the whole industry is the worst circlejerk ever our braille note takers cost around £4000 and hardly have the functionality of an apple mac. and they are made at the cheapest rates in places like South Korea.

    It's either that or care work for me. I could probably earn the same working in a bar or making coffee but none of those sighted cunts want my grubby hands pouring their drinks.


    how will we ever achieve gay communism.

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    work isnt that bad as a concept but in reality too much weird and annoying stuff
    with other people happens. bosses, owners, managers, colleagues, comrades etc

    the best thing about work is its 10 hours of the day you dont need to account for.
    makes life easier. no thinking.

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    I don't mind thinking. it's being forced not to think which is the problem. I read something that hunter gatherers/people in primitive communes spent like 40% or something of their time just sitting under a tree doing nothing. primitivism is crap but that is nice. just switch off when u feel like it.

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    thirdform, you watch Devilman: Crybaby? I haven't but I feel like this is up your alley for some reason.

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    nope.

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