rhythmelodics

**luka** · 02-10-2018, 10:19 AM

https://professorscosco.wordpress.co...dic-manifesto/

**luka** · 02-10-2018, 10:20 AM

Originally Posted by padraig (u.s.)

I mean I read More Brilliant Than the Sun and I don't know if Kodwo Eshun managed to explain what the hell he was trying to talk about but it's still a great book

like that

i think i understood that book. it's everything barty lumps under the rubric 'bladerunner'

**padraig (u.s.)** · 02-10-2018, 10:20 AM

Originally Posted by luka

It’s a great tool for musical and personal development, which also happens to be a lot of fun!

wow does that sound nightmarish

**padraig (u.s.)** · 02-10-2018, 10:24 AM

Originally Posted by luka

it's everything barty lumps under the rubric 'bladerunner'

except black. afro-futurist Blade Runner.

isn't kind of amazing that for the diversity of Blade Runner's cityscape there's not a single black person in all of Los Angeles? that I can recall, anyway.

still on my very short all-time list, but has to be noted

**luka** · 02-10-2018, 10:24 AM

my big perceptual-intellectual weakness is that i can't perceive or think in structure/system so coleman is never going to appeal to me

**luka** · 02-10-2018, 10:25 AM

Originally Posted by padraig (u.s.)

except black. afro-futurist Blade Runner.

isn't kind of amazing that for the diversity of Blade Runner's cityscape there's not a single black person in all of Los Angeles? that I can recall, anyway.

still on my very short all-time list, but has to be noted

there's a tendency to equate black people with the soil and the soul. rooted. that's part of what afrofuturism was designed to redress.

**luka** · 02-10-2018, 10:27 AM

people think in symbolic-association blocks.

**padraig (u.s.)** · 02-10-2018, 10:27 AM

Originally Posted by thirdform

trance isn't rhythmelodic

you know what trance is rhythmelodic tho I bet is the original trance

the drone and the drum, shamans imitating the sounds of the wind and animals, evoking cthonic spirits

**padraig (u.s.)** · 02-10-2018, 10:37 AM

Originally Posted by luka

there's a tendency to equate black people with the soil and the soul. rooted. that's part of what afrofuturism was designed to redress.

that is interesting. I've always thought of it as dealing with the legacy of slavery, diaspora, and racism, but those aren't mutually exclusive either.

that seems like a Black American thing especially, the soil.

**padraig (u.s.)** · 02-10-2018, 10:40 AM

makes me of think of the Nazi conception of soil, returning to the soil, its idealized connection to lebensraum and so on

juxtaposition of cultural repurposings to completely opposite ends

I'm reading a back rn about the latter Roman Empire and as it declined the Emperor and his bureaucracy were endlessly passing ineffectual laws making trades and status hereditary, as well as banning peasants from moving. the origins of serfdom in Europe. could never get enough people to work the land after conquest stopped bringing in massive new influxes of slaves. just making me think about the soil.

**luka** · 02-10-2018, 10:52 AM

we need a 'bladerunner' thread. i have to get to work but perhaps when i get home tonight i'll start it and we can nail it down.

**thirdform** · 02-10-2018, 05:14 PM

rhythmelodics is that music that blurs rhythm and melody as opposed to making melody focus more on harmony and counterpoint. I.E: air on a g-string is rhythmic but not rhythmelodic.

**thirdform** · 02-10-2018, 05:20 PM

Quite a bit of acid is rhythmelodic. Some 70s jazzfunk like Idris Muhammad Peace of Mind isn't.

this isn't a value judgment in any form. There is no hard rule that says all music has to be rhythmelodic.