stream of consciousness music thoughts thread
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padraig (u.s.)
a monkey that will go ape
dematerialization making more sense here than it did in the dematerialization thread
pattycakes_
Can turn naughty
and yet we're not allowed to use jane's addiction as an example
padraig (u.s.)
a monkey that will go ape
padraig (u.s.)
a monkey that will go ape
nah ofc u can the two Jane's Addiction LPs are both pretty cool, good bass player (and Dave Navaro SHREDDING fwiw)
don't take luka + barty too seriously they're just giving you a hard time man
like what u like you see how I do it
tho Perry Farrell does need to get FOH dissing Janet. Janet Jackson >>> Perry Farrell on Rhythm Nation alone
padraig (u.s.)
a monkey that will go ape
get in where you fit in i.e. contribute where you can
sometimes you gotta stick up for yourself or your tastes is all
sometimes you gotta stick up for yourself or your tastes is all
luka
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you were applauded for using janes addiction as an example. it was great. we loved it. (but i've never ever heard a janes addiction record in my life)
pattycakes_
Can turn naughty
whoa dudes, i was feigning my indignance there. just playing along with u. hence throwing that vid in the mix, knowing full well dissensus' fetish for rnb.
plus, shredded lettuce is far superior.
a pinch of salt with each post.
plus, shredded lettuce is far superior.
a pinch of salt with each post.
pattycakes_
Can turn naughty
learning a lot as i go, too
luka
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it is the dematerialisation thread.
sadmanbarty
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luka
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i dont dislike any of those records padraig though it does make me curious about where you locate the bliss. presumably in a certain pummeling aspect? the kind of intensity that comes from dialling up the force and pressure? im just casting about here, without preconceptions.
pattycakes_
Can turn naughty
see post #48
baboon2004
Darned cockwombles.
Hasn't hip hop (are we talking about hip hop specifically? I think so. I'll presume we are) been the subject of a lyrical/musical disconnect for most of its lifetime? It's the form of the divergence now that seems novel.
The relentless materialism, violence and misogyny of the lyrics does keep it grounded, as a set of known signifiers, a subcultural unity in the same way as heavy metal. This is what we talk about. But it's surely also a testimony, whether conscious, unconscious or some other mode - this is precisely why the music has had to become ethereal, because there was no way out through language.
sadmanbarty
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baboon, that is stunningly cleaver
baboon2004
Darned cockwombles.
Thanks. Yeah, maybe the divergence doesn't go back that far, was thinking more of the standard mainstream=sonic innovation+(formally clever)lyrical bluntness vs underground=sonic stuckness+reflective lyrics from the mid 90s on
padraig (u.s.)
a monkey that will go ape
ya those are heavier on the gurgling. I was sifting - mentally/YT clicking - thru a lotta things trying to satisfy both halves of gurgling and bliss.
there is a kind of bliss there - not just pummeling tho that is a part - like the intensity of a trip peaking, getting pummeled by pure experience. gurgling to me in this context suggests being off your face if not necessarily on drugs. but straight acid doesn't cover it, be it acid house, banging Liberator style whatever - I was trying to think of oddly angled acid records. also the difference between bliss and joy - much harder to locate bliss. actually thinking in it the perfect example is probably blissed out classic jungle records - related to but not quite the same as ambient jungleI think the sadman said in some other thread, or maybe this one, about the pummeling drums contrasted with soothing synth-pad (and sometimes vocal sample), i.e.
but even those aren't really "gurgling" - you could locate it in the bass but I don't that really captures it
padraig (u.s.)
a monkey that will go ape
so I'm casting about a bit myself