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    i'm issuing a fatwa on crowley.

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    Boys behave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdform View Post
    american commercialisation is always gonna pass me by to an extent
    The thing right here you're thinking of them as Americans and they don't even think of themselves as Americans REALLY because what did you say before? Turk from North London? There's that instantaneous level of distinction alone, you're reacting to a lot more that's traversing and informing you. Connect this to Luka's theorems about African and Jamaican ancestry in the nuum if you so please.

    Likewise you're saying "Yes I have Young Thug's discography at hand but I'd rather go to Ludacris and Ying Yang Twins" and that's great. But that also doesn't take the time to figure out what he's doing outside of his records as isolated records. Ying Yang Twins come from a lineage of Atlanta Bass MCs like Hitman Sammy Sam. You can know that without having to go back through the Ying Yang Twins catalog and then conclude "Well obviously something made Ying Yang Twins sound like Ying Yang Twins" the same way fucking Source Direct or whomever had to sound like the way they did.

    You're placing the notion of American Commercialisation and TESCOization because you're thinking of the means of transmission and reception and how it was given to you and the intermediaries. You're reacting to thunder, not lightning.

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    Anyway I'm legitimately honestly just at a loss as to what and how I'm supposed to say what Luka wants me to point to. There's a lot of ground to cover.

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    Just say something about Finnegans Wake predicting autotune or something.

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    Well I know what Luka wants to HEAR but

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    tell me if i read you wrong but what i thought you were saying is- the rap music barty is championing
    as the future is already old

    given barty thinks it peaked in, i think 16? maybe? i don't think even he would disagree with that
    but what it suggests as corollary is that it's old, not just becasue i'ts peaked, but because new developments have supplanted it. i was
    wanting to know what those developments are.

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    crowl, what have been the most recent developments in rap?

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    The Detroit Double Time style, the UK Drill aesthetic (even though that one's cauterizing as we speak probably), The Afro-Trap sound (basically dead or dying), Post-Gates Neo-Country Rap, "Broken Underground", the hyperdistorted sludgy 'metallic' realm of Soundcloud rap (facing danger of similar cauterization), The Valee Flow (which is starting to become its own genre at this rate).

    That's all I can do at this minute it seems. The Detroit Double Time is however the big one because that informs SOB x RBE who are informing a lot of newer and younger California talents who are becoming the big new wave.

    Stuff like this:





    bridges to stuff like this:











    and leads to stuff like this:





    Which in turn bounces back across to California resulting in this:







    And that has now gestated:





    On both sides too:








    The trick is in the run-on sentences, the moments of friction in the pockets of the beat, the erratic energy that can easily become a formula but becomes about dawdling and the unnecessary over emphasis on certain syllables or deliberate staggering. Everything appears to be slowing down again (or rather I can't remember examples of it being exceptionally brisk and higher BPMs to cite) but that's also because a lot of these guys get scooped and molded to slow down to fit current radios. When you're being asked to become lower key to suit the dirge, it naturally relies on you to calm not the others to excite.

    I'm also imagining on a production edge people will note the roller-boogie/electro 80s tendencies and mutter how "we've done this before, the Afrika Bambataa shit" and the real trick is in moments where either that vibe gets put in extremes or married to the current downer modernity:





    Also this has mostly been contained in an axis of Detroit and the Bay Area but it's started to billow out and bleed into the nearby areas such as LA or Chicago




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    YAAAAAAY!!!!!

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    https://www.toneglow.net/search?q=Maxwell%20Cavaseno

    Also realized I can just link y'all to the column I do and I could slack off but you folks benefitted I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrowleyHead View Post
    The trick is in the run-on sentences, the moments of friction in the pockets of the beat,
    great line

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    disappointed that with a name like maxwell cavaseno you never took up a career in stripping.

    bit like when jack law didn't become judge dread

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    well done crowley. i have an inbuilt prejudice against the bay area which i regard as regional backwater offering enough novelty to attract rap bloggers to sniff around every few years (dating back to hyphy) but without enough general appeal to affect the wider conversation.

    so i'll ignore everything that sounds like e-40 and investigate everything else. thanks for making the effort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blissblogger View Post
    Love how this twists into dissonance, I can imagine it doing strange things to people at the right time in the club.

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