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    Quote Originally Posted by other_life View Post
    perhaps your most on brand post
    Cute. But do you actually have a reply?
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    Quote Originally Posted by luka View Post
    There are all sorts of reasons people have been trying to minimise their reliance on Strong Leaders and Inspired Individuals of course, all of them fairly obvious but the chopping the head off the snake thing is pretty central.
    There's all sorts of newer theories on leadership doing the rounds, like 'distributed leadership' and even 'followership' but i think it is a central issue with humans, that we require a single person to be in charge...

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    Quote Originally Posted by catalog View Post
    There's all sorts of newer theories on leadership doing the rounds, like 'distributed leadership' and even 'followership' but i think it is a central issue with humans, that we require a single person to be in charge...
    Highly disagree on that. Co-ops and collectives do fine without hierarchy.
    XR are trying the Bertrand Russell "Committee of 100" style apparently https://www.lrb.co.uk/blog/2019/apri...ifeless-planet

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    but they only work on a small scale right? i mean, co-ops and collectives, they only work where everyone knows one another face-to-face?

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    I reckon that demonstrating that non-hierarchical structures work should be an objective of movements like this,
    but then i'm always full of fine ideas like that

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    Address to the EU commission foresight group by the eminently credible scientists warning group.



    http://www.scientistswarning.org/
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    Default no more heros

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    These people are heroes.
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    These people are heroes.
    i knew i’d find some high-value gibber-jabber on this topic here.. yr lovely peeps you knows.
    long grime dissensus lurcher here. (my spelling/grammar/humour sucks i know.)

    I think extinction rebellion would be keen to not be thought of as heroes. Their psychedelic ngo corporate psychobabble looks like it would avoid such ‘drama triangle’ divisions. lol. (i spotted references to this in gail’s old youtube talks - she was previously a ngo freelance advisor). XR’s official values are non-blame, non-violence, non-politics and international inclusivity, achieved through systems of regeneration and holacracy,. This appears to then wrapped up in a stereotype of empirical middle england postwar conservative ‘britishness’ but with an emotionally sensitive upper lip. i.e. Doing your bit (sacrifice), and defining power externally in a pre-marxist social sense, or internally as a group sourcing power from an internal sense of doing the right thing. all appear to be at play.

    I’m all over this like a rash. My self induced 5year psychosis, with subsequent religious faith in a headless no-thing, being of refugee grandparents and having the luck to be able to represent my self as a parody of white toff genteel-man, aligns nicely with xr... but then i think that their value system and apocalyptic branding is designed to fit with as many people possible init.

    I joined xr by accident. on the way home from pedalling expensive patriarchal narratives to children, I heard one of my favourite dj’s coming out of a pink boat. I stopped.
    When over the pa they asked if anyone could lock on as a barnacle so some demonstrators could take part in an action deciding people’s assembly... i nievely raised my hand. The next two hours was spent being attended to by tea-makers, ciggy rollers (i only have one hand free), legal advisers, first-aides and official blue sash’d wellbeing hug givers. My crusty lockon partner requested that i was to not let go if we got pulled apart by the police even if he cried out in pain. and i did the same. We discovered that we attended the same strawberry fairs in the 90’s).. so we sang culture shock songs together while above us the orb(egg) attempted to board the boat.

    Xr as far as i can see are in the PR/education/recruitment stage of development. And i really wish them well so they hold thier shit together to finish off what i guess will be an highly audacious prank, immeasurably more ambitious than what anyone expects, with the clout to halt china & the usa’s emissions (we live in that self-administered placebo called hope). Personally i can’t stop crying so now i’m trying to get thier leaflets translated into bengali, arabic, gujarati and urdu. PM me if you know anyone that might be able to help out.

    p.s. the orb never played, the solar charged batteries ran out of power.
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    Bless.

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    both very revealing

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    Quote Originally Posted by ome View Post
    i knew i’d find some high-value gibber-jabber on this topic here.. yr lovely peeps you knows.
    long grime dissensus lurcher here. (my spelling/grammar/humour sucks i know.)

    I think extinction rebellion would be keen to not be thought of as heroes. Their psychedelic ngo corporate psychobabble looks like it would avoid such ‘drama triangle’ divisions. lol. (i spotted references to this in gail’s old youtube talks - she was previously a ngo freelance advisor). XR’s official values are non-blame, non-violence, non-politics and international inclusivity, achieved through systems of regeneration and holacracy,. This appears to then wrapped up in a stereotype of empirical middle england postwar conservative ‘britishness’ but with an emotionally sensitive upper lip. i.e. Doing your bit (sacrifice), and defining power externally in a pre-marxist social sense, or internally as a group sourcing power from an internal sense of doing the right thing. all appear to be at play.

    I’m all over this like a rash. My self induced 5year psychosis, with subsequent religious faith in a headless no-thing, being of refugee grandparents and having the luck to be able to represent my self as a parody of white toff genteel-man, aligns nicely with xr... but then i think that their value system and apocalyptic branding is designed to fit with as many people possible init.

    I joined xr by accident. on the way home from pedalling expensive patriarchal narratives to children, I heard one of my favourite dj’s coming out of a pink boat. I stopped.
    When over the pa they asked if anyone could lock on as a barnacle so some demonstrators could take part in an action deciding people’s assembly... i nievely raised my hand. The next two hours was spent being attended to by tea-makers, ciggy rollers (i only have one hand free), legal advisers, first-aides and official blue sash’d wellbeing hug givers. My crusty lockon partner requested that i was to not let go if we got pulled apart by the police even if he cried out in pain. and i did the same. We discovered that we attended the same strawberry fairs in the 90’s).. so we sang culture shock songs together while above us the orb(egg) attempted to board the boat.

    Xr as far as i can see are in the PR/education/recruitment stage of development. And i really wish them well so they hold thier shit together to finish off what i guess will be an highly audacious prank, immeasurably more ambitious than what anyone expects, with the clout to halt china & the usa’s emissions (we live in that self-administered placebo called hope). Personally i can’t stop crying so now i’m trying to get thier leaflets translated into bengali, arabic, gujarati and urdu. PM me if you know anyone that might be able to help out.

    p.s. the orb never played, the solar charged batteries ran out of power.
    did you get nicked ome?

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    check this thread too btw ome http://www.dissensus.com/showthread....944#post350944 (top thread, no replies)

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