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    Default Popular novels

    Read any good ones lately?

    I'm talking 'Gone Girl', 'The Goldfinch', etc. The sort of novel that millions of people buy.

    Read any bad ones lately/ever?

    What are your favourite pop novels?

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    'The Stud' by Jackie Collins is OK. Although the theme's light years from Richard Allen's skinhead pulp trash, there are similarities in style and pace. It's pretty much the spiritual godmother to all sorts of demented schlock, like Footballers' Wives (best ITV drama ever).

    The only pop novel I've ever cringed reading was 'Camden Girls' by Jane Owen...the worst book I've ever encountered. Only recommended if you're suicidal - read this and, whatever misery befalls you in life, you'll be able to say "At least I never wrote 'Camden Girls'".

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    Moby Dick is quite good, I reckon.
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    Silence of the Lambs is good. I must read Jurassic Park one day. (Both ancient history by now, of course.)

    Anyone read 'The Girl on the Train'?

    These popular thrillers I reckon are more interesting than serious literature sometimes, at least in terms of tapping into some sort of public anxiety/obsession.

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    I read a bit of '50 Shades' and it was unbelievably bad. Literally: I couldn't believe it could be so bad and so popular.

    But I suppose it's just porn really, and I've never complained about the acting in my favourite filth clips.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corpsey View Post
    I must read Jurassic Park one day. (Both ancient history by now, of course.)
    I read Jurassic Park last year and wasn't particularly impressed, it had its moments but it's much more bloated than the film, the dialogue is appalling, the characters are flat and Malcolm is insufferable - Crichton appears to have inserted himself into the novel to stop every so often and go "Well, actually... " and lecture the reader and the rest of the characters.

    I get the impression that his writing process consisted of reading about whatever was in vogue in science and technology then forcing a story around it so that he could position himself as the voice of reason and talk down to people. A lot of Malcolm's interruptions read like they were written by an edgy 4chan user, e.g.:

    “They don't have intelligence. They have what I call 'thintelligence.' They see the immediate situation. They think narrowly and they call it 'being focused.' They don't see the surround. They don't see the consequences.”

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    Ah maybe I won't bother then

    Lord of the Rings fans think Peter Jackson butchered the books to make the movies but having listened to some of the books on audiotape I have to say the first movie anyway is a huge improvement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corpsey View Post
    Silence of the Lambs is good. I must read Jurassic Park one day. (Both ancient history by now, of course.)

    Anyone read 'The Girl on the Train'?

    These popular thrillers I reckon are more interesting than serious literature sometimes, at least in terms of tapping into some sort of public anxiety/obsession.
    Mike Davis uses film and novel etc like this in city of quartz. Very convincingly. I don't read popular novel. I am a metropolitan elitist.

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    I'd expect the opposite, for you to be an iconoclast

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    Tell a lie, I read da vinci code. Enjoyed it.

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    This was sort of inspired by a doc on Brian De Palma I saw last night

    He was citing Hitchcock as an influence - the way Hitchcock adapted trashy pulp novels and made them into something like 'high' art

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    Game of gnomes is unreadable.

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    Fincher has done this (or attempted to) with Girl with the Dragon Tattoo and Gone Girl...

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    Game of Gnomes is extremely readable IMO, it just isn't well-written

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    Quote Originally Posted by luka View Post
    Tell a lie, I read da vinci code. Enjoyed it.
    I enjoyed this a long time ago. Then I read Foucault's Pendulum, and realised TdVC was a sort of version of that book for idiots. Then I read that Eco's reaction to it had been to claim Dan Brown as one of his 'diabolicals' - the credulous minor characters in his novel who pay large sums to the main characters' vanity press to have their books of new-age hokum published.

    The whole phenomenon around TdVC was raised to the level of a piece of postmodern performance art when the authors of The Holy Blood and The Holy Grail, which Dan Brown had taken as historic fact, sued Brown's publisher for plagiarism but had the case dismissed on the grounds that Brown was entitled to use their "factual" book as a "research" basis for his novel. Cost the twats three million in legal fees.
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