luka

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At the risk of sounding like a dullard.

What is the aim of this framework?

I understand you've established these polarities - but what do you do with them?

You ask the kind of intelligent questions webeschat asks here

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got a crude question but it pertains to an old discussion i saw you lot were having on here about how alot of slang now reflects liquids (drip and so on)

What do you lot think of UK drills (as far as im concerned) obsession with piss? especially in regards to say who is or isnt on piss(man are always talking about how the ops aint on piss aswell as not doing any bootings)

Im surprised nobody has brought it up when talking about this genre.
 

luka

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So dematerialisation is connected with orgasm/womb sort of language because you're re-physicalising the language about a supposedly abstract art?

The insight that there is no dematerialisation - material is all.

Wordsworth, preface to lyrical ballads, the physicality of language in its 'native' state... (Rural, naturally)

'Humble and rustic life was generally chosen, because, in that condition, the essential passions of the heart find a better soil in which they can attain their maturity, are less under restraint, and speak a plainer and more emphatic language; because in that condition of life our elementary feelings coexist in a state of greater simplicity, and, consequently, may be more accurately contemplated, and more forcibly communicated; because the manners of rural life germinate from those elementary feelings, and, from the necessary character of rural occupations, are more easily comprehended, and are more durable; and, lastly, because in that condition the passions of men are incorporated with the beautiful and permanent forms of nature. The language, too, of these men has been adopted (purified indeed from what appear to be its real defects, from all lasting and rational causes of dislike or disgust) because such men hourly communicate with the best objects from which the best part of language is originally derived; and because, from their rank in society and the sameness and narrow circle of their intercourse, being less under the influence of social vanity, they convey their feelings and notions in simple and unelaborated expressions. Accordingly, such a language, arising out of repeated experience and regular feelings, is a more permanent, and a far more philosophical language, than that which is frequently substituted for it by Poets, who think that they are conferring honour upon themselves and their art, in proportion as they separate themselves from the sympathies of men, and indulge in arbitrary and capricious habits of expression, in order to furnish food for fickle tastes, and fickle appetites, of their own creation.'

Borges explained this with the example of 'the river of time' - a metaphor many of us use without ever spending time near a river.


Feel a bit deflated to realise virtually no one has read a single word I've written here over the last few years.
 
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sadmanbarty

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Feel a bit deflated to realise virtually no one has read a single word I've written here over the last few years.

I’ve had months of disillusionment and frustration with dissensus’ inability to engage in substantive discussion. Maybe this whole time everyone’s just viewed me like a monkey wanking myself off in front of zoo-goers and didn’t even bother to read what we were talking about.

tortured artists.

pathos
 

blissblogger

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the important thing to remember with philosophy or critical theory and all that stuff is that it is the art of saying something unremarkable or simple in as convoluted a way ass possible so as to appear smart.

sometimes, perhaps often even -and if there is a more direct way to say something, you should probably find it, I tend to think

but if i don't understand something, i don't assume the problem is with it, I assume it's with me

some concepts, some thinking, are fearfully complex and require difficult language and poncified terminology - they are specialist fields
 

sadmanbarty

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sometimes, perhaps often even -and if there is a more direct way to say something, you should probably find it, I tend to think

but if i don't understand something, i don't assume the problem is with it, I assume it's with me

some concepts, some thinking, are fearfully complex and require difficult language and poncified terminology - they are specialist fields

i preferred you when you were liking all of luke's wank posts
 

luka

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what's wrong with what he wrote then luke?

Does it sound to you like he has studied and memorised my teachings? Has he gathered my words and printed them in a book and taken that book with him everywhere he goes? Has he annotated that book? Interrogated it? Written essays about each one of its themes? Or am I starting from scratch again?
 
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sadmanbarty

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Does it sound to you like he has studied and memorised my teachings? Has he gathered my words and printed them in a book and taken that book with him everywhere he goes? Has he annotated that book? Interrogated it? Written essays about each one of its themes? Or am I starting from scratch again?

pick it a part. word by word. what has he missed?
 

luka

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Dematerialisation is an historical process, an endpoint of a technological trajectory exemplified by digitisation. It is why there are no more buttons. Buttons. Pressing buttons.
 

sadmanbarty

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1) So dematerialisation is connected with orgasm/womb sort of language because you're re-physicalising the language about a supposedly abstract art?

2) The insight that there is no dematerialisation - material is all. Wordsworth, preface to lyrical ballads, the physicality of language in its 'native' state... (Rural, naturally)

1) the rapid fire information dissemination of twitter, vine, etc.- orgasm and iconisation

it's ambient intangibility speaks more the the womb. however there is a coldness there.

2) the material is an epistemological a priori. even the dematerialised can only be perceived as material

what do you have to say about that luke?
 

sadmanbarty

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Dematerialisation is an historical process, an endpoint of a technological trajectory exemplified by digitisation. It is why there are no more buttons. Buttons. Pressing buttons.

he doesn't express any qualms with that at any point does he?
 

droid

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the important thing to remember with philosophy or critical theory and all that stuff is that it is the art of saying something unremarkable or simple in as convoluted a way ass possible so as to appear smart.

Classic Chomsky.
 

luka

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Pack your kids off to boarding school. Tell your boss where he can stick his crummy job. Become a magic tramp like us lot.
 
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