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    Presumably Arya, having come to King's Landing and then witnessed all the suffering up close, now kills Dany, or at least tries to, otherwise there is basically no reason for her to have featured in that episode at all, especially so extensively.

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    Yeah I think people are saying that the red witch told her she would close "green" eyes and that might mean Dany.

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    One thing I liked - but should I? - was Arya being shaken out of her insouciant killer mode by all those people suffering around her. It took that to reconnect her with her humanity. Perhaps that was unbelievable, but it reconnected *me* with that character in a way I haven't been for a few seasons.

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    I've seen the frame of Emilia Clarke's face when Dany goes mad a lot today and it's really quite haunting. I actually think she's improved a lot over the course of the show and is pretty good now, despite the shit writing.

    Kit Harrington is quite likeable but his accent continues to torture me to the bitter end.

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    I guess it's a tribute to how much people love the show that it's provoked such a strong reaction but I did roll my eyes reading about that petition. And I hate all that "character arc" "hero's journey" stuff. A lot of American podcasts I listen to talk about this stuff like it's a law - film studies majors. The undermining of that stuff is one of the reasons Game of Thrones has stood out in the landscape of TV. There is no hero's journey for Rob Stark. Perhaps there's ultimately been one for Jon Snow. Fair enough, but I did like Cersei not dying at the hand of the avenging angel.

    Like I said, the ends I'm quite content with (except maybe the Night King stuff), but the means has been rushed and garbled.

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    Like imagine Jamie and Cersei reuniting at that point, having an intense, long dialogue scene, then dying. Another sort of convention, maybe, but could have made much more of it if they had more time.

    The Hound fighting his zombie brother was what the fans wanted but there was really no point to it. The mountain would have presumably died anyway by dragon fire, so what did The Hound achieve? Perhaps nothing, perhaps that was the point, he was condemned to die taking revenge on a zombie. Except the zombie clearly was his brother cos he defied Cersei.

    It was one of those "that would be cool" scenes. But it's taking time away from fleshing out Cersei's demise (someone pointed out to me today that she had no backup plan at all... because she thought the scorpions were really good? US TOO!), from helping us understand Danaerys's reasoning (if there was any).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corpsey View Post
    The Hound fighting his zombie brother was what the fans wanted but there was really no point to it. The mountain would have presumably died anyway by dragon fire, so what did The Hound achieve? Perhaps nothing, perhaps that was the point, he was condemned to die taking revenge on a zombie.
    That's the way I saw it. The point was that the only thing sustaining him was the prospect of confronting his brother.

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    Quote Originally Posted by subvert47 View Post
    The major sticking point for many was Dany’s apparent transmogrification into an unhinged tyrant, as if this was something that happened in the space of five sour-faced minutes.
    Nah, not buying it. Consider:

    Dany has been burning people alive since Mirri Maz Duur in season one...
    ...who betrayed her, causing her son to be stillborn as a deformed monster, and her husband reduced to a vegetable;

    ...the Tarleys...
    ...who refused to bend the knee;

    ...Varys...
    ...who plotted to oust (and presumably kill) her and install Jon as monarch in her place;

    ...the slavers...
    ...who enslaved people, duh.

    Dani's entire raison d'etre, since the first series, has been to punish those who wield power with cruelty and to protect the small folk. Admittedly, Varys was neither cruel nor (conventionally) powerful, but he threatened her authority and probably also her life, and he knew the danger he was putting himself in because she explicitly threatened him with a reptilian roasting if he ever betrayed her when he first entered her service. But destroying the surrendering Lannister soldiers and most of the civilian population of King's Landing is totally out of character for her, even taking into account her gradual turn towards authoritarianism.
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    Yeah I don't get this thing of comparing killing a single (probably evil) enemy and roasting thousands of helpless citizens.

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    That's the way I saw it. The point was that the only thing sustaining him was the prospect of confronting his brother.
    It's like Frankenstein when the Doctor is living only to kill the monster which in turn is only staying alive to try and fuck up his life.

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    Like I said, the ends I'm quite content with (except maybe the Night King stuff), but the means has been rushed and garbled.
    Yeah this is exactly how I feel.

    I did roll my eyes reading about that petition
    This too in fact. I hate this weird thing now where fans feel that they own films/shows etc Is it the internet? The revenge of the geek? If we had fans designing everything by committee it would all be totally bland bollocks.

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    I'm watching episode 5 again to prepare for the finale as I knew I was pretty fucked when it was on.... must have been more out of it than I thought cos loads of it is totally new to me.

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