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    Default The Artistic Temperament

    He's probably the worst writer of the last 100 years. End of conversation. Lock thread.
    I think of anyone on here Luka has the most artistic temperament I've seen - which is to say, he's a fundamentalist. This is by no means an insult, although it might be a mischaracterisation.

    But you see what I did there? I shied away from taking a strong position. I apologised for myself in advance. This is unacceptable for the artistic temperament. It won't get you anywhere. As luka says, an artist has to first and foremost BELIEVE in what they're doing.

    In an introduction to Nabokov and Edmund Wilson's correspondence Nabokov is quoted as saying (I'm quoting from memory) that a book is either ''bedside or wastebasket". That's how Luka is - not only is X writer bad, he is the worst writer ever. Not only should this book not be read, it should be burned.

    As for me, I'm stuck with (at best) the critic's temperament. I am doubtful, doubtfilled. So I can poke holes in things, I can conjure up depth interpretations, but I cannot light the flaming word against the shadowed multiverse.

    In other words, Hamlet couldn't have written "Hamlet".
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    Tolstoy famously wrote some of the most empathetic novels ever - within a narrow band, perhaps, he could imagine everyone.

    He is also one of the most egotistical men to have ever lived (or at least to have had the publicity).

    Is this a contradiction?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corpsey View Post
    Tolstoy famously wrote some of the most empathetic novels ever - within a narrow band, perhaps, he could imagine everyone.

    He is also one of the most egotistical men to have ever lived (or at least to have had the publicity).

    Is this a contradiction?
    No, because he created the novels and the characters in them. It's all "his" so his egotism remains intact.

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    However, the best critics are artists. The best criticism, art. Some of the greatest cultural criticism you will ever read is contained in rebours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by version View Post
    Please don't ruin my thread m8

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    Sorry, pal. I could have deleted it, but you've quoted it now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by craner View Post
    However, the best critics are artists. The best criticism, art. Some of the greatest cultural criticism you will ever read is contained in rebours.
    You're right, I set up a false opposition there.

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    If we both delete them, we can leave Craner saying yikes and nothing more.

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    I don't do deletion my friend.

    Just secretion.

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    "Journalism is unreadable and literature is not read."

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    who is supposedly the worst writer of the last 100 years? Just curious.

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    It'll be more fun if you try and guess.

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    Talent is insignificant. I know a lot of talented ruins. Beyond talent lie all the usual words: discipline, love, luck, but, most of all, endurance.

    James Baldwin

    There's no room left in the cultural void for the artistic temperament. Talent doesn't count for much and if you're difficult, there are endless pools of much easier to work with, easier on the eye, mediocre blobs of quasi talented flesh just waiting to be exploited. I wonder how a James Baldwin would fare in the current climate.

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