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    just saying the piano is the worst insturment invented by man. an abomination. i only like the fender sometimes, monk and it in hardcore. otherwise it can rot away.

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    its like the proto computer. there are no in betweens. everything is so precisely mapped.

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    I'm listening to some left wing turkish folk soul about american imperialism. it all seems so quaint now. it's like, anti-americanism is just so nonsense now. it carries no cultural currency. not like it did in the 60s-70s. back then it actually meant something to the world working class. now we see all our socialist, theological and humanitarian leaders are just as much crooks as the Americans.
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    whereas the kind of audio collage anti-americanism of nono is still relevant today, if only as an agitprop docment and an exercise in tape music, in the technical advances of the industrial process that the proletarians are faced with. It still has something to say. the stuff im listening to atm only really resonates with folk nostalgics and historical leftist reenactment societies. It's not about futurism or progress. We're already in the future. we have to reflect it. there is no progress to be made but we can still somehow realise something out of the noise. not in terms of innovation but in terms of brute force. in terms of exploring an alternative vocabulary.

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    May I offer the suggestion that in these times perhaps love is the only true form of subversion? Goes against the grain 180.
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    well, love has always been the true subversion. but, to love everyone, you must love noone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luka View Post
    Lads im drunk and someone give me some speed. We all know the feeling yes patty is very 90s but hes not the enemy we know where he's coming from even if the language is jarring lets learn to communicate this is ridiculous
    I really wish I could write well but my brain isn't geared for it. Idk if it's dyslexia, dyspraxia or what, but I'm way better at talking than writing. When I write all the thoughts come rushing at once and it's hard to compartmentalise. Always end up rereading what I've written to check I said what I meant to. Kind of frustrating. I'm much more coherent in person, honest!
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdform View Post
    well, love has always been the true subversion. but, to love everyone, you must love noone.
    Don't go all Mr. Miyagi on us now, third
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    if you didn't clown my aphorisms a bit you'd realise that I speak nothing but the truth. I don't even hide the rational kernel inside the mystical shell like all spiritualists do. I give you 5 grams of speed in one. the dialectic is electrified through me. Sorry, comrades on my news feed are sincerely talking about communism once a fucking again as if they have a love affair with it. I'm feeling nauseated and frustrated in equal measure. I'm an anti-state communist but I have no romantic dreams that it is ever inevitable (not because of that bogeyman called human nature) in fact if human nature was as the capitalists say, then communism would be far more achievable and the left would have won its war of social development of the human a long time ago. more because capitalism has totalised to such an extent that it is essentialy a closed system with no masters or leaders. the corporations can shift their rulers in ever more bizarre and dazzling combinations and awrays. just in time leen production. very few parts of the world (almost close to nil) aren't in the nexus now. we are all cyborg. we couldn't be without. not possible. long since passed. we'd have to turn the clock back 50 years at least. This is why left accelerationism is stupid. it's like saying here's a gun, kill yourselves. not that I'm interested in preserving the left but I mean if you want to commit political suicide I have no sympathy for you.

    Naturally, having been and continuing to suffer from suicidal thoughts physical and moral suicide I can very much sympathise and empathise with. But whilst physical suicide does end the sufferers suffering political suicide only compounds it.
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    And of course how soulful can certain affecting vocalists be when they are manufactured by criminal gangs? This is why I laugh at malcolm mclaren. nothing but a toy.

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    I mean I can tell stories but probably over a few spliffs and drinks not online.

    This is why I hate the world music. I don't hate it because of its surface level orientalism, I hate it because of the surface idea that manipulation doesn't go on in the periphery. It does, it's just that as a non-native of the region with all of its unspoken social codes you'll never know.

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    in Turkey some truly astoundingly talented women got their careers truncated or violently aborted because of serious industry manipulation. others, not having the quiescent or mafia personalities for fame were put through the most agonising abusive torment to be made into fame icons. it's not that culture is topdown, it's when you've got nothing you will latch onto the relatable. something the left analyses miss. culture is *lived* not owned, but of course it is the bourgeoisie's culture. even grime. they had to take it away from us. it couldn't be any other way. not possible.

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    im not pessimistic. noone's pessimistic on this thread! what's there to be pessimistic about? this shits been going on for over 6000 years. as a species we've numbed ourselves to it. there's nothing there to get sad about! how can you make revolution when you're sad?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdform View Post
    if you didn't clown my aphorisms a bit you'd realise that I speak nothing but the truth.
    Just playing. Was funny because it was out of character.
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    It feels pessimistic to me to say categorically that there's no way back to soul & real feelings being expressed in music..
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