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    There are two types of people in this world, people who like facts and people who can live without them.
    Are you a fact man? Speaking for myself I can't stand them but this troubles me occasionally and I buy a book of facts, for self improvement reasons, which I never read.

    When I see a whole heap of facts staring back at me I shrivel up. What is the point of this, I ask. What am I supposed to do with it?

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    So for instance, i think of myself as being interested in history. I like going to old places and I like going to museums but I have never read a history book. I can't. They are so boring and full of superfluous facts.

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    “Facts are but the Play-things of lawyers,-- Tops and Hoops, forever a-spin... Alas, the Historian may indulge no such idle Rotating. History is not Chronology, for that is left to Lawyers,-- nor is it Remembrance, for Remembrance belongs to the People. History can as little pretend to the Veracity of the one, as claim the Power of the other,-- her Practitioners, to survive, must soon learn the arts of the quidnunc, spy, and Taproom Wit,-- that there may ever continue more than one life-line back into a Past we risk, each day, losing our forebears in forever,-- not a Chain of single Links, for one broken Link could lose us All,-- rather, a great disorderly Tangle of Lines, long and short, weak and strong, vanishing into the Mnemonick Deep, with only their Destination in common.”

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    Your prose style has changed a lot since I last heard from you

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    Yeah.

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    It's obviously Pynchon, partly cos it's you posting it, and partly cos it's obviously Pynchon. I stalled around page 650 of GR but I started again yesterday. I'm on the Counteforce bit now.

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    It's a strange book. I loved it, but if I'm not in the mood the 18th Century English is just irritating.
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    I think it's a matter of cognitive predeliction

    I have never had a head for numbers, for dates, nor much interest in facts

    To this day I can't remember either of my parents birthdays, e.g.

    James Joyce was obsessed with facts insofar as they furnished him with material for his books.

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    Do you also feel a bit uneasy about not having a head for facts? Do you have the same misgivings about it that I do?

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    YES!

    I feel so many misgivings about the nature of my mind and interests that I'm perpetually haranguing myself

    As you know I have no interest whatsoever in politics and very little in current events.

    I recognise this is a black mark against me.

    Why is it that I just cannot force myself to read the great works of philosophy and literature but I can plough through a pile of true crime library articles about grubby serial killers lickity split?

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    We'll always have paradise lost

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    We should do another one actually. Feel Up to BLAKES JERUSALEM. Or even, I dunno, the prelude? What else is there?

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    I'm also terrible at geography.

    I don't really know where anywhere is in the UK, even - let alone anywhere else.

    Also anything adults should know about, like mortgages and taxes. Not a clue.

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    I mean, I know that fact people can't do what I do. I know they can't cut through to essentials in the way I can, can't see the shape of a thing. So I bolster myself with that. But then you have people like JH Prynne who can do everything. Who, I assume, have trained
    Their minds to do compensate for an initial weakness. Worked on that weakness and conquered it through POWER

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